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A different take on a war with code

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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#61 - 2015-01-19 23:49:39 UTC
Renard Solo wrote:
To paraphrase code whatever happens im enjoying eve immensly so in that sense i win, i always win lol
My friend, you are playing EVE right then. It is a game, all that matters is how much fun you have.

Evil RatKid
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#62 - 2015-01-20 02:04:10 UTC
Gorila Vengaza wrote:
And before anyone starts crying at me "if you were a mod, why didnt you do something about the Toxic people??"

I did. Im one of the few people alive who has had the absolute pleasure of GAGGING Veers.Lol


WOW YOU ARE SOOOO AMAZING.

It took me all of 5 seconds to identify you as a code wannabee....and even though everyone else thought I was insane for equating an AG mod with a code griefer...turns out I was correct, as usual.

Enjoy your claim to fame for a 15 minute gag as a mod of a channel you never belonged in and brought nothing but disrepute to. You are truly now where you rightfully belong, sir.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#63 - 2015-01-20 02:15:28 UTC
Black Pedro wrote:


It's funny how opponents of the New Order vacillate between the Code-is-the-greatest-threat-to-the-game-ever-so-nerf-everything-now position and this Code-are-inconsequential position, although apparently not inconsequential enough for them to stop posting about Code on the forums.

Either we are small number of players living on the fringes of highsec aggression mechanics, barely influencing New Eden and therefore the repeated cries for increased safety by carebears are just whining (Nerf bumping! Station lockouts! Buff CONCORD! We want consequences!), or we are indeed a significant threat to highsec safety (10T ISK?), in which case, well, you probably should buy a permit.


New order is a threat to new/casual players. It makes the game unpleasant for them, and they respond by quitting. That is bad for the game. New order is a joke to elite PvE players. Incursion runners and mission runners regularly laugh at the incompetence and failed ganks. Actually finding an agent in an incursion zone is harder than Where's Waldo?

Turns out the bullies only go after the weakest and most pathetic targets. Touche'.
Tyyler DURden
Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co.
#64 - 2015-01-20 02:27:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyyler DURden
Veers Belvar wrote:
Black Pedro wrote:


It's funny how opponents of the New Order vacillate between the Code-is-the-greatest-threat-to-the-game-ever-so-nerf-everything-now position and this Code-are-inconsequential position, although apparently not inconsequential enough for them to stop posting about Code on the forums.

Either we are small number of players living on the fringes of highsec aggression mechanics, barely influencing New Eden and therefore the repeated cries for increased safety by carebears are just whining (Nerf bumping! Station lockouts! Buff CONCORD! We want consequences!), or we are indeed a significant threat to highsec safety (10T ISK?), in which case, well, you probably should buy a permit.


New order is a threat to new/casual players. It makes the game unpleasant for them, and they respond by quitting. That is bad for the game. New order is a joke to elite PvE players. Incursion runners and mission runners regularly laugh at the incompetence and failed ganks. Actually finding an agent in an incursion zone is harder than Where's Waldo?

Turns out the bullies only go after the weakest and most pathetic targets. Touche'.

I think I'm going to have to take a page out of ole Feyd's book and kill it forward every time you come up with one of these ridiculous posts. I'll have them contact you for reimbursment, mmm'kay?

Tyyler DURden says "use soap"
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#65 - 2015-01-20 02:30:22 UTC
Tyyler DURden wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Black Pedro wrote:


It's funny how opponents of the New Order vacillate between the Code-is-the-greatest-threat-to-the-game-ever-so-nerf-everything-now position and this Code-are-inconsequential position, although apparently not inconsequential enough for them to stop posting about Code on the forums.

Either we are small number of players living on the fringes of highsec aggression mechanics, barely influencing New Eden and therefore the repeated cries for increased safety by carebears are just whining (Nerf bumping! Station lockouts! Buff CONCORD! We want consequences!), or we are indeed a significant threat to highsec safety (10T ISK?), in which case, well, you probably should buy a permit.


New order is a threat to new/casual players. It makes the game unpleasant for them, and they respond by quitting. That is bad for the game. New order is a joke to elite PvE players. Incursion runners and mission runners regularly laugh at the incompetence and failed ganks. Actually finding an agent in an incursion zone is harder than Where's Waldo?

Turns out the bullies only go after the weakest and most pathetic targets. Touche'.

I think I'm going to have to take a page out of ole Feyd's book and kill it forward every time you come up with one of these ridiculous posts.


Good luck....it was a pretty ineffective campaign. I would suggest only posting Evemail snippets in the pirate story thread.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#66 - 2015-01-20 08:15:43 UTC
I have removed a rule breaking post.

The Rules:
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.

Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.

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Gorila Vengaza
Ol-Silly Basterds
#67 - 2015-01-21 04:59:47 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Gorila Vengaza wrote:
And before anyone starts crying at me "if you were a mod, why didnt you do something about the Toxic people??"

I did. Im one of the few people alive who has had the absolute pleasure of GAGGING Veers.Lol


WOW YOU ARE SOOOO AMAZING.

It took me all of 5 seconds to identify you as a code wannabee....and even though everyone else thought I was insane for equating an AG mod with a code griefer...turns out I was correct, as usual.

Enjoy your claim to fame for a 15 minute gag as a mod of a channel you never belonged in and brought nothing but disrepute to. You are truly now where you rightfully belong, sir.


Veers, still butthurt about me Gagging him i see..Veers did you tell everyone how you rage logged after i gagged you?Cool
Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#68 - 2015-01-21 09:38:17 UTC
Veers, you don't debate, you just insist that you're right; normally in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"

NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
loyalanon
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#69 - 2015-01-21 10:57:44 UTC
Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:
I also recommend paying the ransom whenever you get bumped in a freighter



I endorse Siegfrieds services
loyalanon
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#70 - 2015-01-21 10:59:04 UTC  |  Edited by: loyalanon
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
Veers, you don't debate, you just insist that you're right; normally in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.


Yep last time he debated me he's still crying about it XD

Inb4 veers starts saying random things with nothing too back it up :)
Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#71 - 2015-01-21 11:18:09 UTC
loyalanon wrote:
Inb4 veers starts saying random things with nothing too back it up :)
When did he stop?

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NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2015-01-21 11:22:18 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:


Enjoy your claim to fame for a 15 minute gag as a mod of a channel you never belonged in and brought nothing but disrepute to. You are truly now where you rightfully belong, sir.

The channel does a fine job bringing disrepute to itself without any New Order agents helping in the process.... I brought some alts into the channel to 'spy' and maybe have a little fun screwing with the inhabitants I very quickly learned that there was even less intelligence to be gathered than I expected and that the inhabitants did so much in-fighting there really was no point in trying to disrupt it any further. Lol

If fact, I found myself giving advice in no time as I could simply not stand the sheer ammount of bullshit that gets tossed around in the channel. Lol
Sonne7
Perkone
Caldari State
#73 - 2015-01-21 13:24:07 UTC
Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:


Enjoy your claim to fame for a 15 minute gag as a mod of a channel you never belonged in and brought nothing but disrepute to. You are truly now where you rightfully belong, sir.

The channel does a fine job bringing disrepute to itself without any New Order agents helping in the process.... I brought some alts into the channel to 'spy' and maybe have a little fun screwing with the inhabitants I very quickly learned that there was even less intelligence to be gathered than I expected and that the inhabitants did so much in-fighting there really was no point in trying to disrupt it any further. Lol

If fact, I found myself giving advice in no time as I could simply not stand the sheer ammount of bullshit that gets tossed around in the channel. Lol


i found the channel very helpfull, only infighting i have seen has come from the bitter fire of a code spy, most show them selfs very fast and most of us don't care, not sure why they do so much

Veers keep doing what your doing , just shows its working from the flak you get and why loyalanon with the silly one liners, maybe the best thing you can contribute to the conversation would be silence
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2015-01-21 13:38:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Meilandra Vanderganken
Sonne7 wrote:


i found the channel very helpfull, only infighting i have seen has come from the bitter fire of a code spy, most show them selfs very fast and most of us don't care, not sure why they do so much



Haven't been active lately but a few months ago it was horrible.... Few ppl that were overly paranoid accusing each other of being 'spais' or 'sympathetic' to gankers. Doesn't take much to be labeled a spai it seems :D

Edit: not that there isn't some useful info that can be obtained from there. The fittings listed in it can most certainly be helpful. It's just that they are very ineffective at achieving their goals (which should be not getting ganked). Lots of raging and cheering for killmailwhoring on CONCORD kills, which leaves many believing that stuff like that actually does some good, it's not even good for propaganda to any sane informed person.

It's focus should be on DENYING the New Order kills, which the OP promotes. The AG channel should do the same. Of course playing the game decently so you aren't easy pickings means the New Order wins Lol
ISD Supogo
ISD BH
ISD Alliance
#75 - 2015-01-23 02:06:53 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
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Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#76 - 2015-01-23 11:06:30 UTC
Meilandra Vanderganken wrote:
Sonne7 wrote:


i found the channel very helpfull, only infighting i have seen has come from the bitter fire of a code spy, most show them selfs very fast and most of us don't care, not sure why they do so much



Haven't been active lately but a few months ago it was horrible.... Few ppl that were overly paranoid accusing each other of being 'spais' or 'sympathetic' to gankers. Doesn't take much to be labeled a spai it seems :D

Edit: not that there isn't some useful info that can be obtained from there. The fittings listed in it can most certainly be helpful. It's just that they are very ineffective at achieving their goals (which should be not getting ganked). Lots of raging and cheering for killmailwhoring on CONCORD kills, which leaves many believing that stuff like that actually does some good, it's not even good for propaganda to any sane informed person.

It's focus should be on DENYING the New Order kills, which the OP promotes. The AG channel should do the same. Of course playing the game decently so you aren't easy pickings means the New Order wins Lol


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Tyyler DURden
Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co.
#77 - 2015-01-24 04:46:47 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Tyyler DURden wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Black Pedro wrote:


It's funny how opponents of the New Order vacillate between the Code-is-the-greatest-threat-to-the-game-ever-so-nerf-everything-now position and this Code-are-inconsequential position, although apparently not inconsequential enough for them to stop posting about Code on the forums.

Either we are small number of players living on the fringes of highsec aggression mechanics, barely influencing New Eden and therefore the repeated cries for increased safety by carebears are just whining (Nerf bumping! Station lockouts! Buff CONCORD! We want consequences!), or we are indeed a significant threat to highsec safety (10T ISK?), in which case, well, you probably should buy a permit.


New order is a threat to new/casual players. It makes the game unpleasant for them, and they respond by quitting. That is bad for the game. New order is a joke to elite PvE players. Incursion runners and mission runners regularly laugh at the incompetence and failed ganks. Actually finding an agent in an incursion zone is harder than Where's Waldo?

Turns out the bullies only go after the weakest and most pathetic targets. Touche'.

I think I'm going to have to take a page out of ole Feyd's book and kill it forward every time you come up with one of these ridiculous posts.


Good luck....it was a pretty ineffective campaign. I would suggest only posting Evemail snippets in the pirate story thread.

One innocent retriever pilot decommisioned and podded in your name Veers. I sent him your info so you two can get together and work out the details of reimbursment. Oh yeah, hes german, so good luck with google translate.

Tyyler DURden says "use soap"
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#78 - 2015-01-24 07:13:27 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Black Pedro wrote:


It's funny how opponents of the New Order vacillate between the Code-is-the-greatest-threat-to-the-game-ever-so-nerf-everything-now position and this Code-are-inconsequential position, although apparently not inconsequential enough for them to stop posting about Code on the forums.

Either we are small number of players living on the fringes of highsec aggression mechanics, barely influencing New Eden and therefore the repeated cries for increased safety by carebears are just whining (Nerf bumping! Station lockouts! Buff CONCORD! We want consequences!), or we are indeed a significant threat to highsec safety (10T ISK?), in which case, well, you probably should buy a permit.


New order is a threat to new/casual players. It makes the game unpleasant for them, and they respond by quitting. That is bad for the game. New order is a joke to elite PvE players. Incursion runners and mission runners regularly laugh at the incompetence and failed ganks. Actually finding an agent in an incursion zone is harder than Where's Waldo?

Turns out the bullies only go after the weakest and most pathetic targets. Touche'.


Why would agents try to gank targets that are super tanked, with reps on grid, and aren't afk? They follow the Code, even if they aren't trying to.

The only "weak" players are the ones whom choose not to tank, choose to be afk, and choose not to buy a permit in a system with known agent presence.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Sonne7
Perkone
Caldari State
#79 - 2015-01-24 15:10:59 UTC
when ISD remove a post is there anyway to see who it was from
Tyyler DURden
Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co.
#80 - 2015-01-24 16:48:06 UTC
Sonne7 wrote:
when ISD remove a post is there anyway to see who it was from

1. The first rule about forum moderation, we don't talk about forum moderation.
2. The second rule about forum moderation,we DON'T talk about forum moderation.

Tyyler DURden says "use soap"