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Dual Prop Slasher?

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Vazkez
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-01-19 03:31:06 UTC
Worth flying this ship?
I made a couple of fits, both require genos. Both really tight fitting.


[Slasher, Shield]
Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
1MN Afterburner II
Warp Scrambler II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I





[Slasher, Armor]
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II

1MN Afterburner II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler II

200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
5W Infectious Power System Malfunction

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Ancillary Current Router I






Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-01-19 12:50:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Tsukino Stareine
does it fit any better using meta ab?
Catalytic morphisis
Ruthless Regiment
Brotherhood of Spacers
#3 - 2015-01-19 13:28:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Catalytic morphisis
Can't say I'd use it over other slasher fits, You lose either damage or Utility, Both of which you kind of want in a slasher, Having to give up rig slots for 2 ACR rigs just isn't viable in this ship really. Good attempt though

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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#4 - 2015-01-19 16:36:21 UTC
Vazkez wrote:

[Slasher, Shield]
Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
1MN Afterburner II
Warp Scrambler II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I

Armor tanking a ship with two lows is generally not advisable. Your shield fit is on the right track, but I would suggest:

1. Swap out the T2 neut and scram for Meta 4. T2 costs less, but the equal performance and lower fitting of the Meta 4 modules is worth it.
2. Consider swapping out the extender for an ancillary shield booster. A small ASB will leave you a touch light on tank, but is a snap to fit. A medium ASB will kill your CPU, but provide a pretty stout tank. And neither of these bloat your sig like an extender does. Also, you'll be able to drop that MAPC for something more useful, like maybe a Tracking Enhancer.
3. I'd swap one of those extender rigs for an EM resist rig. Laser ships and Acolytes will eat you alive otherwise.

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Walter Pryst
Pryst Services Corp
#5 - 2015-01-19 17:41:07 UTC
I definitely agree a shield buffer slasher is doing it wrong. It doesn't tank much, and the low sig is one of the big reasons to fly the slasher. MASB is pretty easy to fit, and meta4ing the scram should clear up space to fit.

The up side of armor (or these days structure) tanked is the addition of a TD, which with the small Sid, high speed, and an AB makes you very hard to hit

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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#6 - 2015-01-19 19:01:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Bronson Hughes
Walter Pryst wrote:
I definitely agree a shield buffer slasher is doing it wrong. It doesn't tank much, and the low sig is one of the big reasons to fly the slasher. MASB is pretty easy to fit, and meta4ing the scram should clear up space to fit.

The up side of armor (or these days structure) tanked is the addition of a TD, which with the small Sid, high speed, and an AB makes you very hard to hit

Hull tanking is a thing, and I am constantly forgetting to apply it to Minmatar ships. It frees up mid slots like armor tanking, but without the reduced mobility.

Here's what I'd do:

[Slasher, Hull]
Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

1MN Microwarpdrive II
1MN Afterburner II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I


Not as much raw EHP as the shield fit, but better EHP than the armor fit. Your sig stays low, your speed stays up, and you can dictate range very well. Dropping the web for a TD is also an option, but you'll need to make sacrifices elsewhere to free up some CPU. As an alternative, you can (at least I can with AWU V) just barely fit a full rack of 150mms without the MAPC, freeing up room for a Tracking Enhancer (not enough CPU for a Gyro sadly).

Note: The MWD and AB are instances where T2 actually offers some benefit over Meta 4. T2 ABs offer higher speeds than Meta 4 at the expense of higher fitting. T2 MWDs are nice for sprinting into range since their cap penalty is lower, but Meta 4 is better for perma-running like 'Ceptors.

EDIT: Typo fix.

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Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-01-20 16:06:22 UTC
Just take your favourite Afterburner-Slasher loadout, and translate it to a dual prop version to the best of your abilities.

As with everything it will have it's strengths and weaknesses.

When hunting with a MWD frigate, you should avoid Afterburner-only frigates and try to find other pilots who can keep up with you because you'll have a much better chance at beating another frigate if they too are flying with a MWD. In scram range you're at too much of a disadvantage against frigates with pure Afterburner setups and it won't end well. The good news is you have a MWD on your Slasher, so you can control the field against most things and only engage when you feel it is worth it.