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So many wormholes

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Iyokus Patrouette
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-01-06 02:09:32 UTC
Krops Vont wrote:
Iyokus Patrouette wrote:
a more helpful hint, there are 4 battleships that when fit with a higgs anchor rig will = an orcas mass.


Sssssh, don't tell them. I love helpless orcas.


Sorry did i let the cat out of the bag.. must still be drunk on christmas cheer.

---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----

Sukur
WhiteOps
#22 - 2015-01-06 02:17:10 UTC
zar dada wrote:
Can you recruit more players into your corp to help with the workload?



I can, but thats not the point. Its just that having 6 wormholes makes quite hard to play for small corps. And while im personaly fine it quite changes the nature of low level W-space.

Now C1 are usesless, unless its for industry.
C2 and C4 are fine, if you are looking for PvP in W-Space.
C5 are for farming.
C6 are for mini aliance in blingy ships.

But C3, whats their purpose now?. With 6 wormholes small corps can hardly have activity, except pvp, but they are inferior to both C4 and C2 for that.

I just think that CCP just messed up a bit C3 without noticing.
Jez Amatin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2015-01-06 11:24:41 UTC
Sukur wrote:
zar dada wrote:
Can you recruit more players into your corp to help with the workload?



I can, but thats not the point.


Unless you are posting on an alt, having a 2 man corp in a c3 would be limiting. It's not about blobbing up to ridiculous sizes, but you need man power to play in WH. This is a multiplayer game after all, not just a game of alts (seems even CCP might be catching onto this).

Secondly your comments on connectivity are somewhat misleading. Is it per week / per day? Because 5/6 connections per week is really not that big a deal, even compared to other wormhole classes.
Sukur
WhiteOps
#24 - 2015-01-07 00:56:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Sukur
Jez Amatin wrote:
Sukur wrote:
zar dada wrote:
Can you recruit more players into your corp to help with the workload?



I can, but thats not the point.


Unless you are posting on an alt, having a 2 man corp in a c3 would be limiting. It's not about blobbing up to ridiculous sizes, but you need man power to play in WH. This is a multiplayer game after all, not just a game of alts (seems even CCP might be catching onto this).

Secondly your comments on connectivity are somewhat misleading. Is it per week / per day? Because 5/6 connections per week is really not that big a deal, even compared to other wormhole classes.


About the first part, This is post is not about me, its about tha change that C3 have experienced after the changes CCP did. They change the fundamental nature of C3. It not even a complain, its just a statement.

On the second part. Its per week. It changed from 1-2 conections apart from your static to 30 per week.
Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
#25 - 2015-01-07 08:18:38 UTC
TLDR; reasons why I left w-space...
Samantha Elroy
Disturbing Silence
Disturbing Silence.
#26 - 2015-01-07 09:26:45 UTC
Sukur wrote:

C5 are for farming.
C6 are for mini aliance in blingy ships.

Shocked
Alot to explore you have young padawan.
roxtarr
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2015-01-07 12:13:37 UTC
Sukur wrote:
So, I live in a C3--> Null and im having something around 30 conecting wormholes every week. If you count weekends could be around 5-7 at least every day.

Taking in account how hard it is to collapse now, isnt this a bit too much?.

It could be great if we could get some proper statistics about about wormhole conections.



Wormholes in general have gotten much busier since the devs have been paying more attention to them. We can probably expect that to die down a bit once they move their attention elsewhere and people get bored again.
Peter Moonlight
Suddenly Carebears
Verlate
#28 - 2015-01-07 13:21:24 UTC
Sukur wrote:
zar dada wrote:
Can you recruit more players into your corp to help with the workload?



I can, but thats not the point. Its just that having 6 wormholes makes quite hard to play for small corps. And while im personaly fine it quite changes the nature of low level W-space.

Now C1 are usesless, unless its for industry.
C2 and C4 are fine, if you are looking for PvP in W-Space.
C5 are for farming.
C6 are for mini aliance in blingy ships.

But C3, whats their purpose now?. With 6 wormholes small corps can hardly have activity, except pvp, but they are inferior to both C4 and C2 for that.

I just think that CCP just messed up a bit C3 without noticing.

Congratulations, you are in the competition for the stupidest post 2015 and the year just started..
Agrippa Arkaral
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#29 - 2015-01-07 13:31:58 UTC
C1 is for carebear
C2 is for carebear
C3 is for carebear
C4 is for carebear
C5 is for carebear
C6 is for carebear
HS is for carebear
LS is for carebear
0.0 is for carebear
Sukur
WhiteOps
#30 - 2015-01-07 17:41:53 UTC
Peter Moonlight wrote:
Sukur wrote:
zar dada wrote:
Can you recruit more players into your corp to help with the workload?



I can, but thats not the point. Its just that having 6 wormholes makes quite hard to play for small corps. And while im personaly fine it quite changes the nature of low level W-space.

Now C1 are usesless, unless its for industry.
C2 and C4 are fine, if you are looking for PvP in W-Space.
C5 are for farming.
C6 are for mini aliance in blingy ships.

But C3, whats their purpose now?. With 6 wormholes small corps can hardly have activity, except pvp, but they are inferior to both C4 and C2 for that.

I just think that CCP just messed up a bit C3 without noticing.

Congratulations, you are in the competition for the stupidest post 2015 and the year just started..


Explain why.
Hiljah
Slap Fight Martial Artists
#31 - 2015-01-16 06:14:04 UTC
Adriana Nolen wrote:
TLDR; reasons why I left w-space...

Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#32 - 2015-01-16 14:07:06 UTC
Jez Amatin wrote:
Sukur wrote:
zar dada wrote:
Can you recruit more players into your corp to help with the workload?



I can, but thats not the point.


Unless you are posting on an alt, having a 2 man corp in a c3 would be limiting. It's not about blobbing up to ridiculous sizes, but you need man power to play in WH. This is a multiplayer game after all, not just a game of alts (seems even CCP might be catching onto this).

This misses the point, because c3s don't offer enough regular content for more than 1-2 people. It makes no sense to grow your corp and still live in a c3. The few home sites cannot sustain more than 1-2 players. You don't have a w-space static to get more sites. You also cannot chain-collapse for more pvp. C3s are just designed in a way that makes them useful only as a home for solo players and as hunting grounds for corps that live elsewhere but have a c3 static. The level of connectivity should reflect these facts, but this is not the case anymore.

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Zhubin
Slap Fight Martial Artists
#33 - 2015-01-16 19:08:27 UTC
Terrorfrodo wrote:
Jez Amatin wrote:
Sukur wrote:
zar dada wrote:
Can you recruit more players into your corp to help with the workload?



I can, but thats not the point.


Unless you are posting on an alt, having a 2 man corp in a c3 would be limiting. It's not about blobbing up to ridiculous sizes, but you need man power to play in WH. This is a multiplayer game after all, not just a game of alts (seems even CCP might be catching onto this).

This misses the point, because c3s don't offer enough regular content for more than 1-2 people. It makes no sense to grow your corp and still live in a c3. The few home sites cannot sustain more than 1-2 players. You don't have a w-space static to get more sites. You also cannot chain-collapse for more pvp. C3s are just designed in a way that makes them useful only as a home for solo players and as hunting grounds for corps that live elsewhere but have a c3 static. The level of connectivity should reflect these facts, but this is not the case anymore.


Yes, unfortunately ccp is not designing w-space to be lived in. From their point of view, day trippers connect, run site with more risk/reward than k-space, and then leave.
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2015-01-16 20:02:40 UTC
Zhubin wrote:
Terrorfrodo wrote:
Jez Amatin wrote:
Sukur wrote:
zar dada wrote:
Can you recruit more players into your corp to help with the workload?



I can, but thats not the point.


Unless you are posting on an alt, having a 2 man corp in a c3 would be limiting. It's not about blobbing up to ridiculous sizes, but you need man power to play in WH. This is a multiplayer game after all, not just a game of alts (seems even CCP might be catching onto this).

This misses the point, because c3s don't offer enough regular content for more than 1-2 people. It makes no sense to grow your corp and still live in a c3. The few home sites cannot sustain more than 1-2 players. You don't have a w-space static to get more sites. You also cannot chain-collapse for more pvp. C3s are just designed in a way that makes them useful only as a home for solo players and as hunting grounds for corps that live elsewhere but have a c3 static. The level of connectivity should reflect these facts, but this is not the case anymore.


Yes, unfortunately ccp is not designing w-space to be lived in. From their point of view, day trippers connect, run site with more risk/reward than k-space, and then leave.


Umm.... that was supposedly true when they were introduced, but I assure you that CCP has come to terms with WH dwellers in the interim since Apocrypha. I'm not saying that we're a primary concern for them due to our relatively small numbers, but there are members of CCP who are actively paying attention to WH life and concerns. Maybe not to the extent that everyone would like them to, but certainly more than you seem to think.

If you don't believe me, just ask Lord Corbexx.

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.

KC Kamikaze
Blue-Fire
#35 - 2015-01-16 20:03:05 UTC
Sukur wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
why is it hard to collapse?


Orca aperars 10km from hole, if there are active people on it it will get ganked unless you +1 them.

With so many holes this happens a lot.


At the risk of repeating someone else cause I just browsed the first page:

Battleship + Travel Fit + Dual Prop + Higgs = cheaper + faster + much much safer ... showing my age here.
KC Kamikaze
Blue-Fire
#36 - 2015-01-16 20:17:06 UTC
Oh also I disagree with your assessment about C3 life sustaining only a couple people.

Not only do you have a C3 which pays nearly 100m a site for the good data/relics .. or more but now you have kspace ghost, data and relics and you have a static Null! ... a corp of 10 players can easily live a well off but not space rich life in a c3.

My now alt corp lived in a c2 for about 8 months and at our peak we had 7-10 guys on at any time and farmed nearly 10b a month from our c3 static... then the wormhole changes came and it became too dangerous to try running sites in the static for our comfort. Risk vs reward and all with the new connections it became to hard to secure a c3 to run sites but to live in a c3 would be just fine. Run sites once a week and farm your null sec for good sites and escalations as often as you like.

Like I said not space rich, but you'll have no problem buying t3's for sites and hacs and faction ships for pvp.
Alundil
Rolled Out
#37 - 2015-01-16 22:23:27 UTC
Can we have some of those connections? In the last week and a half we've hit a real dry spell with incoming connections. Much sadness.

I'm right behind you

Hiljah
Slap Fight Martial Artists
#38 - 2015-01-17 01:10:52 UTC
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:


Umm.... that was supposedly true when they were introduced, but I assure you that CCP has come to terms with WH dwellers in the interim since Apocrypha. I'm not saying that we're a primary concern for them due to our relatively small numbers, but there are members of CCP who are actively paying attention to WH life and concerns. Maybe not to the extent that everyone would like them to, but certainly more than you seem to think.

If you don't believe me, just ask Lord Corbexx.


http://corbexx.blogspot.com/2014/09/prediction.html

Corbexx believes the problem of too many worm holes was corrected by reducing small worm hole numbers, which isn't true.

Sugar Kyle and Corbexx said they told CCP the changes would be bad for small groups but CCP didn't care.

"CCP has come to terms with WH dwellers" yes, and they are fixing it, and by fixing it I mean redesigning toward the original goal.

"actively paying attention to WH life and concerns" Paying attention? yes. Concerns? no.
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#39 - 2015-01-19 00:06:44 UTC
Don't know if this has been said. But - go ahead and forget orca rolling and get a raven/mega/apoc/whatever the light minnie BS is and fit a higgs boson + 100mn MWD. same mass as a hot orca, 1/5 the price.
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