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Good caracal fits for null sec PvE sites
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Davey Talvanen
Kingsparrow Wormhole Division
Birds of Prey.
#1 - 2015-01-17 17:22:13 UTC
This is what I have now can anyone improve:

[Caracal, Missile Mayhem]

Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Limited 'Anointed' EM Ward Field
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile

Medium Bay Loading Accelerator I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Scourge Heavy Assault Missile x1800
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#2 - 2015-01-17 17:26:45 UTC
Rule #1 with shield extenders: IF you're going to fit them you MUST fit oversized ones (if those exist). So frigs and destroyer fit mediums, cruiser and up fit large.

You'll have to be a bit more specific in what kind of "sites" you're talking about but the answer will almost never be "a Caracal will do fine".
Davey Talvanen
Kingsparrow Wormhole Division
Birds of Prey.
#3 - 2015-01-17 17:36:43 UTC
Gregor Parud wrote:
Rule #1 with shield extenders: IF you're going to fit them you MUST fit oversized ones (if those exist). So frigs and destroyer fit mediums, cruiser and up fit large.

You'll have to be a bit more specific in what kind of "sites" you're talking about but the answer will almost never be "a Caracal will do fine".


Sansha sites in null-sec (catch)
Davey Talvanen
Kingsparrow Wormhole Division
Birds of Prey.
#4 - 2015-01-17 17:37:57 UTC
[Caracal, Missile Mayhem]
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Limited 'Anointed' EM Ward Field
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile

Medium Bay Loading Accelerator I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I

Scourge Heavy Assault Missile x1800

This better ?
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#5 - 2015-01-17 17:48:30 UTC
Davey Talvanen wrote:
Gregor Parud wrote:
Rule #1 with shield extenders: IF you're going to fit them you MUST fit oversized ones (if those exist). So frigs and destroyer fit mediums, cruiser and up fit large.

You'll have to be a bit more specific in what kind of "sites" you're talking about but the answer will almost never be "a Caracal will do fine".


Sansha sites in null-sec (catch)


Not going to work; your tank is already way too light and EM/thermal will shred the little tank that you have, on top of that you lack outright dps.
To mare
Advanced Technology
#6 - 2015-01-17 18:47:36 UTC
you can kill the rats on the belts but sites will wreck your caracal unless you team up with others
Davey Talvanen
Kingsparrow Wormhole Division
Birds of Prey.
#7 - 2015-01-17 18:48:12 UTC
Gregor Parud wrote:
Davey Talvanen wrote:
Gregor Parud wrote:
Rule #1 with shield extenders: IF you're going to fit them you MUST fit oversized ones (if those exist). So frigs and destroyer fit mediums, cruiser and up fit large.

You'll have to be a bit more specific in what kind of "sites" you're talking about but the answer will almost never be "a Caracal will do fine".


Sansha sites in null-sec (catch)


Not going to work; your tank is already way too light and EM/thermal will shred the little tank that you have, on top of that you lack outright dps.


Really because When I run sites in this I can normally soak it all up (even with MSE) and is 151 really too small DPS
Davey Talvanen
Kingsparrow Wormhole Division
Birds of Prey.
#8 - 2015-01-17 19:06:51 UTC
To mare wrote:
you can kill the rats on the belts but sites will wreck your caracal unless you team up with others


It seems generally I can run sites in this ship
KnightMaire kings
The Exchange Collective
#9 - 2015-01-18 04:33:55 UTC
I git 200 out of some frigs and you aren't runing varry hard sites otherwise you when explode

The only major drawback is the crazed notion that the inventory would look so much better if merely rearranged ONE MORE TIME.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-01-18 13:48:30 UTC
should be ok if you're sticking to lower sites, though caracal is a bit of a strange choice since sansha rats second highest resist is kinetic.

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Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2015-01-18 14:49:03 UTC
I think the biggest anomaly i have done in caracal in high sec was Den. Caracal worked fine in dens. I have not done it, but it is likely that the next higher anomaly after den is probably also doable in caracal.

One option you can consider is replacing hml with rapid light missile launchers.

I notice you don't show drones... You might add those up... more dps is more dps.

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Davey Talvanen
Kingsparrow Wormhole Division
Birds of Prey.
#12 - 2015-01-18 16:15:44 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
should be ok if you're sticking to lower sites, though caracal is a bit of a strange choice since sansha rats second highest resist is kinetic.



But carcals are missile boats not gunboats. I can deal EM danage with Caldari mjolnir missiles
Davey Talvanen
Kingsparrow Wormhole Division
Birds of Prey.
#13 - 2015-01-18 16:16:50 UTC
KnightMaire kings wrote:
I git 200 out of some frigs and you aren't runing varry hard sites otherwise you when explode


Is 200 hundred very low DPS
Velarra
#14 - 2015-01-18 16:20:08 UTC
Davey Talvanen wrote:
[Caracal, Missile Mayhem]
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Limited 'Anointed' EM Ward Field
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile

Medium Bay Loading Accelerator I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I

Scourge Heavy Assault Missile x1800

This better ?


Unless your mid slots with meta 4 items are limited due to fitting / support skills you might want to consider some of the T2 module variations. As for anything else? A pair of EC-300's (not for use vs. NPC's) make for good chaff/flares should you end up becoming "content" for other players.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2015-01-18 16:45:22 UTC
Velarra wrote:
A pair of EC-300's (not for use vs. NPC's) make for good chaff/flares should you end up becoming "content" for other players.

Caracal has 25 m3 drone bay. I don't remember the size of EC-300, are they heavy drones?

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Jaantrag
#16 - 2015-01-18 18:10:18 UTC
Caleidascope wrote:
Velarra wrote:
A pair of EC-300's (not for use vs. NPC's) make for good chaff/flares should you end up becoming "content" for other players.

Caracal has 25 m3 drone bay. I don't remember the size of EC-300, are they heavy drones?


if u can fit 25m3 into 10m3 then sure its 25m3 drone bay .. but to answer ur question EC-300´s are lights so 2 will fit nicely in there

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Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2015-01-18 18:11:45 UTC
caracal does not have a 25m3 drone bay.

it's 10m3 with 10mbit bandwidth

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#18 - 2015-01-18 18:41:31 UTC
Davey Talvanen wrote:
KnightMaire kings wrote:
I git 200 out of some frigs and you aren't runing varry hard sites otherwise you when explode


Is 200 hundred very low DPS


No and dps is the least of your concerns. I would suggest you stay way from Sansha Havens and Sanctums.

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Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2015-01-18 20:57:29 UTC
Jaantrag wrote:
Caleidascope wrote:
Velarra wrote:
A pair of EC-300's (not for use vs. NPC's) make for good chaff/flares should you end up becoming "content" for other players.

Caracal has 25 m3 drone bay. I don't remember the size of EC-300, are they heavy drones?


if u can fit 25m3 into 10m3 then sure its 25m3 drone bay .. but to answer ur question EC-300´s are lights so 2 will fit nicely in there

Oops. Sorry about that. It has been a while since I had one out for a spin.

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Silmas Feanarius
Ego One
#20 - 2015-01-19 11:00:31 UTC
Caracal in null? Maybe for belts/light pvp?
It does fine until 5/10... as long as you use a SeBo and keep your distance.
Belt rats should be fine, though you'd probably waste way too much time on BS's.

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