EVE General Discussion

This isn't meant to be a hit-piece of a thread, and I would hope that people can behave themselves.

However, it occurred to me that, since I started playing EVE back in 2004, I have constantly heard the Gallente referred to as 'the French,' and that -- during that same time -- I have kind of come to see the other nations as being tied to real-world nationalities. This is my list, as I see EVE's geopolitical and cultural landscape:

Gallente: I don't just view them as French, per se, but western European as a whole. I think they embody just as many elements of modern Dutch and Belgian culture, as well as even some aspects of British liberalism (their ships also, for whatever reason, remind me a bit of British naval architecture in the First World War, though I cannot lay my finger on why), as they do France.

Amarr: They're Byzantine Imperials. It just fits: a Roman/Christian homogenization that embraced widespread slavery, simultaneously hell bent on spreading the word of God via force, and constantly battling what were seen as 'unruly masses' on all fronts. The only thing that doesn't work is that the Amarr themselves look Scandavian to me, which obviously wouldn't fit. Culturally, however, it's mostly a lock... though I think the more puritanical aspects of the Amarr also remind me a bit of the South African Boers of the late 19th century.

Caldari: Germans. No question about this one. Germany is the economic powerhouse of Europe, and has increasingly traded its abandoned Prussian stoicism for rampant commercialism run-amuck.

Minmatar: I went back and forth on this one. I think they are either post-Nixon China (an ethnically-diverse, rising power eager to flex its new muscle on a world stage), or possibly someplace like Vietnam (a little guy who shocked a superpower).

Interestingly, while I see a lot of European influence in the races, there's absolutely none that I look at and say "that's America." Maybe that was intentional on the part of CCP, but I don't get strong U.S. overtones from either the Caldari or the Gallente (the two most likely candidates), and there aren't enough diehard Christians left in America to make us the Amarr (plus, I challenge you to find any upstanding modern American who would willingly associate us with slavery, outside a historical context).

<-----colonial era space Roman Catholic empire

No.

Jove = American. We dont like our looks so we go to the plastic surgeon to fix it all. Too the point we dont look human anymore and when we laugh, we automatically shrug our shoulders.

Was gonna say this as well. Unless OP means 1940's Germany in which case I could see the resemblance

I mean Germany in general -- I think the Caldari State reflects both the more militant German culture of the 1860s-1940s (well, Prussia until 1871), and also embodies the post-WW2 banker state that we see now. Today's Germany essentially dominates the European economy by providing loans and bailouts, as well as serving as the biggest exporter of products to local nations, particularly in Eastern Europe.

The Spartan elements of Caldari culture line up VERY well with Junker-dominated German values, particularly from 1871-1918, but also stretching up through 1945. By contrast, that's not a trait I would assign to America. We're innovative, and definitely are dominated by corporate interests, but we're also lazy and fickle -- neither of which are personality quirks embraced by the Caldari State.

Gallente as western Europeans ? You trolling or something ??? Ever heard of the Spanish and Portuguese conquistadores ? they were (next to the British of course) some of the most pro-Slaves nations in the history of the universe. Not to mention, the Spanish especially killed everything and asked questions later, if even... The Portuguese had a great time however making babies with their slaves in their colonies, thus, Brazil was born. Doesn't sound like Gallente to me lol.

Amarr as Scandinavian looking? I can agree with the rest you wrote about Amarr but Scandinavian looking, haha...well, perhaps in latest 20 years or so with that middle eastern immigration wave they have, they actually might.

Caldari: I think Caldari fits Murica much better. Yes, Germany is the EU powerhouse but they are too weak to give the lazy and corrupt EU nations the boot in the rear which deserve it, instead, they keep giving them more money. That sound like the Caldari to you?

Minmatar. As you described them, you rather reminded them to me as South Americans. Basically, South America could be a super power but it manages to fail at it constantly due to corruption, old laws written 300+ years ago that haven't changed, and the current own military productions they have are mostly sold to themselves, their neighbor's or to 3rd World Countries due to it being meh war material.

I see the Caldari as a Japanese , Korean fusion , joined by Some (Dutch) multinationals.
I see the Galente as the Europeaan Union.
I see the Amarr as a super mighty Iran
I see the Minmatar as the Brazille / India

and japanese (some of the hulls are named after their mythology) and


mohawks and military marks after RL army on navy hulls.

After giving it a little more thought, I think that Minmatar could actually resemble (surprise!) Germany.
Not the modern Germany though, but the ancient Germanic tribes that were subjugated by the Romans and then bounded together in a loose alliance to fight them.
Look at all those names for their ships, hailing from nordic mythology...