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#Disclosure (End the Truth Embargo)

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Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#21 - 2015-01-15 15:55:06 UTC
I'd like to believe in aliens. Well, let me rephrase...I do believe in alien life. It seems mathematically impossible that life is not out there elsewhere. There probably more. And lots of it at that. But I don't believe they are zipping around in saucers and sexually assaulting rural nebraskans or mutilating livestock for kicks.
Da'iel Zehn
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#22 - 2015-01-15 16:07:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Da'iel Zehn
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
...I do believe in alien life. It seems mathematically impossible that life is not out there elsewhere. There probably more. And lots of it at that...

Agreed.

Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
...But I don't believe they are zipping around in saucers and sexually assaulting rural nebraskans or mutilating livestock for kicks.


I say a lot of UFO stuff is hokum unless otherwise proven. Especially all of the spiritualism in the UFO community.

As to saucers I've already given my position on this one.

As to abductions... there are thousands of people who say this is happening and was investigated by a lot of folks including John Mack who was a Harvard professor/scholar. Aliens abducting people? No way of knowing for sure. Do we believe thousands of people from all over the world from every walk of life?

And livestock mutilations... there have been numerous documented cases. My father found two classic wild pig mutilations on his ranch in north Texas. Are aliens responsible? No way of knowing for sure.

If aliens are responsible for abductions, mutilations, and all the sneaking around by UFOs etc... I am disturbed by whatever the alien agenda may be. I have not seen anything positive from the "alien" presence and activity on our planet so far.

Speculating, I think the black triangles may be human technology designed and built from reversed engineered alien tech, and they (humans who have this technology) are possibly trying to protect us. But... that is only speculation.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#23 - 2015-01-15 18:04:13 UTC
Da'iel Zehn wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
It was likely the UKs new 302ft aircraft. We sold the prototype design to the US army but they ran out of money so we bought it back and its now about to enter commercial service.


I'd like to read about this. Link?


Link

Long story short, its not a blimp as it is heavier than air. The shape generates lift meaning it can land anywhere and does not need to be tied down or have a ground crew. Top speed is 100mph and the freighter variant will have a cargo capacity of a little over 50 tonnes. Currently powered by 4 v12 diesel turbo engines it can stay airborne for a month. Engines are to be replaced by hybrid and eventually hydrogen fuel cell electric motors. Currently it is slightly larger than an Antanov and 80% more fuel efficient than the new generation 747. Its does not require an airstrip, can land on water and its superstructure and skin will stand up to the same storms as any other airliner.

Its not easy to find a non **** article on it.
Da'iel Zehn
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#24 - 2015-01-15 19:09:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Da'iel Zehn
baltec1 wrote:
Link

Long story short, its not a blimp as it is heavier than air. The shape generates lift meaning it can land anywhere and does not need to be tied down or have a ground crew. Top speed is 100mph and the freighter variant will have a cargo capacity of a little over 50 tonnes. Currently powered by 4 v12 diesel turbo engines it can stay airborne for a month. Engines are to be replaced by hybrid and eventually hydrogen fuel cell electric motors. Currently it is slightly larger than an Antanov and 80% more fuel efficient than the new generation 747. Its does not require an airstrip, can land on water and its superstructure and skin will stand up to the same storms as any other airliner.

Its not easy to find a non **** article on it.


Thank you for posting this! Very interesting.

The craft I saw was hovering over two empty lots in a neighborhood with family homes in the middle of a suburb of Houston. It was round, circular when looking at it from the bottom, and it had no wings of any kind. It had no aviation lights turned on and was completely "blacked out." A few seconds after I saw it, the craft began to ascend straight up, and when it got high enough a light/lights did turn on. It shot north, then did a 180 in mid flight, and shot off in a zig zag motion at a slight ascension toward the Gulf of Mexico (south). It moved so fast that it left a trail of light.

Plus I saw the craft in November 1991.

I do not think it was this type of craft you describe.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#25 - 2015-01-15 19:23:25 UTC
Da'iel Zehn wrote:
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
You saw nothing unusual... You want to believe, but there is nothing to believe in, sadly.


I'm not a believer. I am a witness my friend. There is no logical explanation for the technology I witnessed. With that said, it very well may be human technology. I didn't say I believe in aliens, but I do not discount something when it is completely possible in this vast universe.


I know there are stil lthings to discover. Seeing is not enough. If you are stating you are seeing things, its not considered hard evidence. You have to obtain a part, an unusual something what you can show to people and it would be tested.
Da'iel Zehn
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#26 - 2015-01-15 19:38:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Da'iel Zehn
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
I know there are stil lthings to discover. Seeing is not enough. If you are stating you are seeing things, its not considered hard evidence. You have to obtain a part, an unusual something what you can show to people and it would be tested.


I agree. What I witnessed can't be considered hard evidence because I don't have anything to back up my testimony. Sadly, in 1991, we didn't have smart phones so I could record it or take pictures (still not the best evidence based on all the hoaxes out there). My family did have a VHS video camera, but it was at my grandparents' house at the time. I couldn't carry it around in my pocket like today. Big smile

But, I will say this. I have no reason to lie. I do not profit off my experience, nor do I want any kind of attention. I'm only sharing what happened because it did happen, and I am encouraging those who are interested to help in the #Disclosure initiative currently going on.
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#27 - 2015-01-15 21:53:45 UTC
I enjoy these types of threads +1

Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco

Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#28 - 2015-01-15 22:12:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
When I say there is nothing to believe in, it means, that I consider all things true in their own form, but the form perceived by us can be not its own, it could be our mind playing tricks on us. It means, when we obtain something, measure its interactions thoroughly, we will have knowledge, until then, not believing, because it is unnecessary. Not believing, but searching, until we find the thing. The thing that can be explained by us only by use of not earlier known state of technical engineering and science, most importantly it could take us to other stars. It would be considered miracle of science. It can be considered as looking for material angels and their material merkabah.
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I have no reason to lie

There is no reason to say it is lie. Every misconception, false perception or mistake can by considered truth by the observer, but the actual interaction that is measurable by the non believing and his tools is the way to know if its a thing or not.
Da'iel Zehn
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#29 - 2015-01-16 15:14:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Da'iel Zehn
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
When I say there is nothing to believe in, it means, that I consider all things true in their own form, but the form perceived by us can be not its own, it could be our mind playing tricks on us. It means, when we obtain something, measure its interactions thoroughly, we will have knowledge, until then, not believing, because it is unnecessary. Not believing, but searching, until we find the thing. The thing that can be explained by us only by use of not earlier known state of technical engineering and science, most importantly it could take us to other stars. It would be considered miracle of science. It can be considered as looking for material angels and their material merkabah.
Quote:
I have no reason to lie

There is no reason to say it is lie. Every misconception, false perception or mistake can by considered truth by the observer, but the actual interaction that is measurable by the non believing and his tools is the way to know if its a thing or not.

Thanks for the murky philosophy. What?

Though my experience is quite clear. I was simply on my way to get a haircut when I saw something that logically and rationally was beyond public domain human technology.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#30 - 2015-01-17 23:52:21 UTC
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murky philosophy

Its method, the best method to see in a "murky environment" of human understanding.
Sugar Smacks
Khanid Royal Navy
Khanid.
#31 - 2015-01-18 04:13:51 UTC
I would rather know why they have built 1000s of miles of underground tunnels zigzaging around the U.S.

In fact former governor Jessie Ventura posted a video of him driving down an underground expressway after entering the side of a mountain. It's all on youtube to see.

Why so many tunnels? People constantly hearing noises all over they can't figure where it's coming from (digging).

Behold in 100 years the birth of the mole people.
Badel Jramodarr
#32 - 2015-01-18 04:17:17 UTC
Da'iel Zehn
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#33 - 2015-01-21 17:59:56 UTC
Everyone has until February 6, 2015 to sign the petition. Almost to 10K sigs. Smile
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