Intergalactic Summit

CONCORD protects people from Capsuleers in general. Don't expect it to go the other way.

I just want to clarify if anyone has had eyes on the cloaked structure while engaging these Circadian Sleepers. Do the reinforcements come from the structure or some place else?

I just had an hour long fight with sleepers in the Nuken system involving a second wave and being pursued across 3 locations in the system.

See my report in the "study" thread. I can make combat logs available on request for anybody looking to do further analyses.

The objective was to engage them and gather intel on their capabilities.

If a stranger entered your quarters, without asking, and started sifting through your cabinets and closets, would you permit them to do so just because they are unarmed?

That's what the sleepers are doing, Kim.

There is one's personal Domain, within which one claims all rights up to and including Destruction. There is as well the notion of communal territory that is shared. Territory with community shared customs and understandings of civil accommodation. Accommodation and understanding that the region is something that no one individual holds absolute rights to privacy within or even absolute proprietorship of. As say with their own very personal roof beneath which they sleep and maintain a personal life.

Should a moderately new people come to your territory, and simply investigate the region, while yes they are actively involved with your territory without having made active attempts at communication (or have they?), and diplomacy. They're not exactly rifling through your personal quarters. In this case i go so far as to say "moderately new" given archaeological records that seem to strongly suggest that we are the new variable within their homeland and ancestral territory.

I'd further ask If you were to take a very long vacation from your personal territory within which you were born, raised, had a family, descendants, and upon return to your ancestral homeland, which you rightfully felt was -your- home, how would you feel about the new, strange unknown people living there? What if you'd met them recently elsewhere, and they'd been particularly violent with you?

I'd suggest that they're scanning the territory of space we call New Eden. They're scanning its current prominent residents. They're not rifling through anyone's personal quarters. Yet.

At worst there has been no diplomatic communication. Or if there has, we as PIlots have not been privy to the negotiations and communications between the "Sleepers" and for instance The Assembly whom oversee at best, the generalized stability of the cluster. Mmm, CONCORD?

None of this should be too much of a surprise. As has been stated elsewhere, every step of the Seekers' escalation has been precisely in line with the predictions of the Singularity Simulator. This will only continue increasing in severity if the simulation remains accurate. Despite my preference for passive observation in scientific endeavors, I believe that we must be prepared to act with extreme force to eradicate this threat if they become aggressive rather than defensive. I second the recommendation to seek the assistance of Incursion specialists in such a circumstance.

I am actively preparing the pilots of my own corp to stage a defensive blockade in such an event. Though for security purposes I cannot share our current composition, I have faith in the men and women of 4TUNA and believe our current doctrine capable of handling the threat locally for the present.

If you arrive at my quarters with a rifle I would take that as the start of some strange Caldari mating ritual.

AND I'd be all for it ♥ I just know that under that Caldari Ice Queen military veneer of yours is a volcano of passion of the sort that would make an entire pleasure hub close early. ♥

Given how the sleepers react to being webbed and warp scrambled (see my after action report) they are certainly capable of learning and have gone way beyond the insect-like single-mindedness we have seen in Rogue Drones and even inexperienced pirates.


The logical conclusion of this is that they will eventually start deploying warp interdiction technology of their own.


The equipment commonly used to negate warp interdiction tends to occupy the same ship infrastructure as that we use to bolster armor enhancement systems. While I have found that high buffer actively armored ships stand up better to sleepers, an escalation of aggression exceeding the ability to keep the nano repair pumps in operation while incapable of warping out of the engagement would spell doom for such a ship.

SSTG is now researching the prospect of smaller faster ships that are likely to use shielding systems for primary defense and leave the remaining infrastructure open to prevent warp interdiction. This is on a similar track to early experimentations with the Caldari Caracal cruisers against the Sansha Raa Thalamus prototypes of which the sleepers have shown to mimic but in slower form.

Were we to show them "love" as that word is used in the Federation, the sleepers would come out of it even more offended. Though were someone to get camera drone footage of the attempt I imagine it'll be a most viral holoreel for a while.