EVE General Discussion

Since when dumbmode awoxing has become quality content?

It's not really over until they either take out ganking or wars (or both), but I feel that that's not far off at this point.

Openly attacking the ship of a corpmate in hisec without warning or CONCORD retaliation is hardly the only means of AWOXing, it is just the most obvious.

AWOXing and corp theft will continue if the intra-corp aggression rules change. If anything, they will become more entertaining as they will be less straightforward and require more planning.

This is being made into a much bigger deal than necessary.



EDIT: clarity

well let's face it, wars are a mechanic that is either irrelevant or open to more abuse than a choir boy. considering they are literally the only 2 options for them (and they're currently sitting somewhere in the "irrelevant" section), removing them is probably less hassle than fixing them (like adding a "no awoxing" button rather than dealing with neutral logi not getting suspect flags).

also, yeah it's probably easier to just remove concord and disable aggression in high sec than try and police new and interesting things like "hyperdunking"; which by the way was an amazing use of game mechanics to do something and should have been greeted with "that's cool" not "you've been permabanned for doing something cool". however, that's a topic for another thread.

Of all the changes they have made or are intened to make, this is the one you complain about?

The change of a game mechanic to include a button as a safety for not changing anything at all?

You have this impression they didn't research this problem or something, or that money doesn't matter in a business.
Or heres the one people just cant get around, how can you be against more people in a game where you have to sit around and hunt people like animals and wait for them to screw up. How can you not believe more people makes easier kills?

But no you want destructive behavior so we can "retain" you instead of a multiple of others?

This whole thread reads back of a spoiled child refusing to give up his toy, even if he has to burn the house down to get it back.
Please with this kind of "knowledge" please stop by Archeage and tell the current population of greifers they are keeping the game alive and the mass population they have chased out didn't mean anything.
In fact this might be just the game for you.

easily.

quality is more important than quantity.

*looks around*

quality over quantity seems to have worked for the last 10 years (even with all the huge quality of life issues we've put up with since the dawn of time until the wonderful karkur came to liberate us from the tyranny of horrible ui features and such).

as i said in my first post in this thread, it's a sad day when subscriber revenue becomes more important than quality content.

then again, on the bright side now i can turn awoxing off i may as well open my corp to recruit every 3 day old player and tell them mining is awesome and buy ore off them for stupidly low prices until they hate themselves and quit.

Nah it's a business model that does work. The problem with the current situation is it can't be proven if CCP is happy to be a niche game or if it wants to grow much bigger. We get DEV post about how the core of EVE is super important and then others about how player rentention being bad is seen as a problem for the game. Your playerbase won't magically grow if you keep doing the same as you did for over 10 years. They can change details, they can change core things but at some point, if they want to sub number to change, something have the change.

CCP could be run as a niche company no problem. It has the consumer base to do so and could probably still do if a part of the playerbase left but it's still to be proven where they stand on the matter of where they want to be X years from now.

Elite:D has 300k players, or that seems to be the estimate on their forums. So my sources aren't all that exact.

However, Elite:D isn't even a game, it's barely the beginning of one; you can undock, fly around in space, and do rudimentary mining, hauling stuff around, and some PVP. Really, its set of features would fit on a floppy disk, compared to EVE's 20GB of complexity.

And they have 300k players.

I would guess most of them play in Solo mode, to avoid "PVP", which at the moment is griefer paradise because the combat does not have enough features to support other kinds of PVP (you can't fleet up, you can't even chat with anyone who's not in target range, there are no features basically).

Be proud of EVE's 10 years, but it didn't survive because of your "different breed of gamer" efforts, it survived because of CCP's efforts to keep the game going, patch it, and evolve it. And after 10 years it still has 500k players, when a non-game like Elite:D manages to get 300k in the first month.

There's nothing stopping someone from playing both games, too, and many people do. There are names I recognize from here in Elite:D, and a serious hatred of Goons, which could only come from players of this game.

Only 20 pages, and I'm all out of tear buckets.