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Ganking - Vindicator Fits - How to make it not worth the trouble?
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Octavia Kingston
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#1 - 2015-01-16 10:51:54 UTC
Hey everyone,

Somewhere down the line once I am all skilled up and can appropriately fit a Vindicator I will be running Incursions as part of a Shield Fleet, probably Warp to Me still looking into that though. My question is obviously these ships and fits are very expensive and you want to take all proper precautions to avoid being ganked and making yourself a target, how does one go about doing this? I know there is no absolute safety in EVE but if I can I would like to lower the risk to a minimum as much as possible on the fitting spectrum, any and all advice would be appreciated.

All the best
Octavia
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2015-01-16 11:33:27 UTC
If the Gank'ers are just there to troll theres nothing you can do.

Otherwise restrict the bling to a minimum... damage mods are good, perhaps an invuln... but dont go overboard.

No Worries
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#3 - 2015-01-16 11:49:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Gregor Parud
- have less drop/kill value than anyone around you while having at least the same EHP
- don't be an annoying person so they won't target YOU, rather than your ship
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2015-01-16 12:01:54 UTC
travelling between incursions is the only really risky time.
swop out your bling fit for a t2 max ehp fit and then fly the 20 jumps to the next area.
95% of the problem is now gone.

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Octavia Kingston
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#5 - 2015-01-16 12:20:47 UTC
How are these fits in terms of gank attraction any changes or alternative fits anyone has?

DPS Vindicator

[HIGH SLOTS]

8 Neutron Blaster Cannon II

[MED SLOTS]

Gist X-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive
True Sansha Stasis Webifer
2 Pithium C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pithium C-Type EM Ward

[LOW SLOTS]

Damage Control II
4 Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilisers
2 Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifiers

[RIGS]

Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer
Large Hybrid Burst Aerator II


Dual Web Vindicator

[HIGH SLOTS]

8 Neutron Blaster Cannon II

[MED SLOTS]

Gist X-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive
2 True Sansha Stasis Webifer
2 Pithium C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field

[LOW SLOTS]

Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II
4 Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilisers

[RIGS]
2 Large Core Defence Field Extenders II
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#6 - 2015-01-16 13:47:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Gregor Parud
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-01-16 13:48:01 UTC
I would gank you.

No Worries
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#8 - 2015-01-16 14:14:19 UTC
There is no way to avoid being ganked if someone wants to do it, If you're in an incursion flet you're fine since you get remote reps but when travelling its all about having massive EHP (you WILL be insta tackled or bumped so aligning quickly isn't an option).

Swapping your low's to triple 1600 plates, resist mods and a DCII will bring you to close to 200k EHP which makes you significantly more expensive to gank. That's 20 tornado's which are about 100mil a pop, so 2bil of gank ships. changing the TS web to a LSE also adds another 20k EHP.

That level of EHP requires serious organisation to gankg, meaning if you avoid the usual ganking systems you will need to really **** someone off for them to come hunting you with 20+ ships.
Octavia Kingston
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#9 - 2015-01-16 14:57:29 UTC
Yeah I am speaking more in terms of being in the actual Incursion not travelling to it however some solid advice here on that which is awesome, anything I can do to my fit at the incursion to reduce the likelyhood of a gank?
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#10 - 2015-01-16 15:01:49 UTC
Octavia Kingston wrote:
Yeah I am speaking more in terms of being in the actual Incursion not travelling to it however some solid advice here on that which is awesome, anything I can do to my fit at the incursion to reduce the likelyhood of a gank?

Your fit? Not really. Just be mindful of your surroundings and keep an eye on your directional scanner. If you see a bunch of Catalysts, Brutixes, Taloses, and/or Tornadoes on scan, you should probably warn your fleet and start aligning to something warpable.

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Octavia Kingston
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#11 - 2015-01-16 15:04:40 UTC
Right so basis rules, no bling if it is not necessary do not bling it. Travel max tanked and spam d-scan, correct?
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-01-16 15:06:20 UTC
Octavia Kingston wrote:
Yeah I am speaking more in terms of being in the actual Incursion not travelling to it however some solid advice here on that which is awesome, anything I can do to my fit at the incursion to reduce the likelyhood of a gank?


Some people run A-type invuln so you are technically not top target in some groups.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#13 - 2015-01-16 15:45:25 UTC
In an incursion group you should have enough remote reps to keep you up regardless.
Aerie Evingod
Midwest Miners LLC
#14 - 2015-01-16 15:57:39 UTC
Only way to prevent yourself from getting ganked is to fill your mid slots with officer cap rechargers.
Octavia Kingston
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#15 - 2015-01-16 17:00:10 UTC
Aerie Evingod wrote:
Only way to prevent yourself from getting ganked is to fill your mid slots with officer cap rechargers.


Great idea maybe I should buy ten PLEX put it in the cargohold of a velator and fly it between Jita and Dodixie, sounds like a lovely idea, thank you.