Crime & Punishment

Bumping is the problem and has been for a while.Those that argue it isnt obviously are on the giving end or just typing to see themselves on the forums.Currently it does not matter if you are afk or staring at your screen if the bumper picks you and you dont have people willing to put forth the effort then your freighter is gone 95% of the time.Bumping the bumper isnt very practical even with a skilled bumper.Webbing is in the 5% that it might work and thats if the bumper is a slacker.

Your best chance is to have proactive people willing to communicate and spot the bumper.Once the bumper is spotted you then stick to him like glue.If bumper jumps to safe then you watch all system gates for him to appear again.As an example there is one guy who i will not name(he would love that)that does most of the bumping for them.Once i spotted him i stayed on him like white on rice.Every time he stayed on gate i orbited him at 500 in a smart bomb thrasher.Eventually he found a victim and i switched orbit to him and code rolled in.I was able to smart bomb almost the whole fleet(10 or 11?) off the field before they popped the freighter.Feel free to check my kb to confirm im not talking out of my arse.


That night were were many of us being proactive as code blew up the local with their usual ramblings.There were others with logis that saved a couple more freighters as well.Eventually Loyalanon logged off and the fleet(goons included)disbanded and werent heard from again that night.This isnt me bragging I am by no means a bad arse or elite in any way, shape or form i simply pointing out that you can make a difference with communication and thinking outside of the box by yourself.

Eve is a MMO. You SHOULD have friends (or hell an alt).

FFS, the last "escorted" run I needed to make was simply "Hey corpies, I need to move this freighter with 900m worth of YOUR STUFF thru Hek. I'm waiting in [whatever neighbouring system] ... I'll wait 15 minutes for you to get there, else I'm risking it. Oh, and if I pop, neither I nor the corp is reimbursing you."

I had 4 guardians, a daredevil, and 2 falcons show up. This was on top of my existing scout/webber.



Seems having friends, as in my situation above, would've worked better (because that freighter still died). Now, if you webbed/pointed the mach so he couldn't bump well (if at all), maybe the freighter would've gotten away.

So back to the OP...

Soooo... 31 pages later Is the war still about to start or has it started?

There are some people who don't want to wait for new mechanics and just gank our Machs. We like these people.

Eve is really a great game if you play it.

Soon(TM).

Yes 31 pages long, a bit of a surprise, anyway our war is starting out OK thxs, some parts are a bit slow, like getting more people to do stuff to fight back but our numbers are growing. One new line of work that came up is helping corps and alliances outside of high sec understand ganking, so many live with the danger of low sec and null sec life and think high sec is a safe place to sell their products.
I'm sure it's a shock to Code but many don't know who or what they are until they lose a freighter.

I help guide them to a clear understanding of code, to the type of people within, spread the word I say
So far helped two groups put new practice in place for high sec travel and passed on many AG tips, to which I would like to say thxs to the AG channel for all the info and help, a great group doing a hard job.

We hopefully will be more proactive in the coming weeks as holidays now over, one final point it's all very nice the money and ships that you have donated but one or two hours of anti-ganking work is what's needed from your alts, so now with the chance to Isboxer put your mission runners to good use.

I'll post an update in a new post next week


Dar'Nallaa


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Jennifer en Marland has three four on her killboard.

You should really be more trusting.

I checked, those kills in Hek on December 14 1:23 with a smartbombing thrasher? You did roughly 6-12% of the damage done to all those catalysts, then concord rolled in. Can confirm that you ARE talking out your ass. You smartbombed a whole 20% of their shields off the field and lost your thrasher for the effort, well done, if anything you'll help the gankers by damaging the freighter.

It's achieving a goal that matters, not wasting your time and going home with an "at least you tried" medal.

Want your cause to go anywhere? Put your efforts into something far more constructive, particularly if you want others to join in. By far and away the most effective strategy is educating likely targets about the dangers of space. It is the target that is by far the best positioned to cause gankers to fail, not white knights.

If you must go down the harassment route, go gallente targeted ECM. The ship and fit is cheap, and has a significant range advantage, making it very difficult for gankers to counter if flown competently. A single ECM boat can lock down 2 or 3 gankers, creating a significant chance the gank will fail. Of course, you need to be on grid, alert, waiting for a window only a few seconds wide, sometimes in excess of an hour waiting on a single gank. This makes white knighting tedious and oddly enough, few do it for long, hence why I suggest education, first.

It's achieving a goal that matters, not wasting your time and going home with an "at least you tried" medal.

Want your cause to go anywhere? Put your efforts into something far more constructive, particularly if you want others to join in. By far and away the most effective strategy is educating likely targets about the dangers of space. It is the target that is by far the best positioned to cause gankers to fail, not white knights.

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Other than your 1st line I am with you 100%, over the past week we have started an educational program, will be posting about that in the coming weeks

To try something is never a waste of time, sitting back and writing on forums with no action may be a waste yes. More people who take part in this the better.

Not sure why you put that 1st line in, what's the point of any thing if it's not achieving a goal or working to it, the guy I referred to did what he could at the time, why would you put that down, otherwise thxs for your reply you made some good points

Dar'Nalaa

Ps ganker like to call us white Knights, I just do what I feel is right and help others
(Sorry messed the post up, mobile phone no good to post with, this was a reply for the Brave guy above)