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fastest AP indy

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Katarr Ne'asirr
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-01-10 13:19:41 UTC
I was thinking about making one and i did.
The idea is to have a ship that can transport cargo lets say min 2k cargo space and be fast enough.
I did make a wreathe and its very agile but max speed i could make is 230...so...im still looking for possibilitys of faster ships. Anyone have an idea?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2015-01-10 13:30:36 UTC
the Sigil, because low slots.

there might be a gallente one thats better for it but you would need to check
Katarr Ne'asirr
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-01-10 13:49:08 UTC
that quite not the thing , weathe witch i used has 5 low slots and 140km/s base speed.i filled the guy with agility and proplusion and max i could get is 230 speed. next module would raise the max speed by 1km/s....so...pointless.
sigil has 130 base speed so how its going to be faster?
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-01-10 14:22:36 UTC
why does it's max velocity matter?
Paranoid Loyd
#5 - 2015-01-10 18:03:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Disclaimer: Autopiloting is never recommended unless you understand you can and will eventually get ganked.

For auto-piloting, agility is secondary to speed as you spend more time slowboating to the gate than aligning, but warp speed is also a factor. The right setup is not necessarily the same for each route. As you only need 2K in cargo, Wreathe is probably the right choice. I would have more overdrives than agility modifiers.

[Wreathe, AP]
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Expanded Cargohold II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

With all skills maxed:
5 second align time
216 m/s max speed
7.8AU/s warp speed
Tank: 20K vs EMP and 26K vs Antimatter

Should be fairly immune to single gankers but will be vulnerable to catalyst/thrasher groups. Keep cargo value below what you wouldn't mind losing.

Ralph, Sigil has more low slots but also lower base speed and less mids means less tank. It also has lower base cargo so two low slots and one rig slot need to be dedicated to cargo instead of speed to reach the stated 2K in cargo

Then there is Prowler if you can afford to lose it:

[Prowler, AP]
Overdrive Injector System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Overdrive Injector System II

Large Shield Extender II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I

With all skills maxed:
4 second align time
452 m/s max speed
9.4AU/s warp speed
Tank: 15K vs Fusion and 24K vs Antimatter

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#6 - 2015-01-10 18:19:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Autopiloting

oh right

gotcha,
yeah in that case go with Loyd's fit.








this is a stupid thread
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#7 - 2015-01-10 18:26:54 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Autopiloting


this is a stupid thread


Unfortunately: this.

Don't autopilot an industrial. Period. In Eve today you're just asking for trouble.

There was a time when I autopiloted a full Iteron V (back when that meant more than it does now, of course) and it was a bad idea even then. But I could get away with it. That route -- which is well off major trade lanes -- would get me ganked today. Period.
Paranoid Loyd
#8 - 2015-01-10 18:31:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
this is a stupid thread
Semi-afk standings grind via courier missions is an acceptable use of AP IMO. Not much else though. Slow boating low value high volume cargo is sometimes acceptable, but that's what freighters and contracts are for.

Bottom line is you need to understand you are very vulnerable when AP, if you care more about not having to pay attention then about losing your stuff, go for it. You'll at least provide some content to some bored folks. Twisted

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-01-10 20:31:02 UTC
oh autopiloting.

There's a magnate fit that can carry 1750m3 of cargo and it will be faster than any industrial if that works?
Paranoid Loyd
#10 - 2015-01-10 21:32:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
oh autopiloting.

There's a magnate fit that can carry 1750m3 of cargo and it will be faster than any T1 industrial if that works?

Prowler is faster but also more vulnerable as it is a more attractive target, if you can fit the cargo with the 1750m3, Magnate is the way to go.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Chad Wylder
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#11 - 2015-01-13 05:40:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Chad Wylder
Overdrives kill your cargo, and cargo expanders kill your velocity, so don't fit either of them.

Adjusted the Wreathe fit posted earlier and came up with this.

[Wreathe, AP]

Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Capacitor Power Relay II

EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I

3.59 s align
224 m/s velocity
3.64k m3 cargo
Basically same tank as the earlier fit. (a bit less hull, but not enough to matter)
Cap Relay because couldn't think of anything else, and should help avoid capping out on long warps (shouldn't happen anyways, but eh.)

Also dropped down to T1 rigs because I prefer being cheap.
Katarr Ne'asirr
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-01-13 17:14:01 UTC
Chad Wylder wrote:
Overdrives kill your cargo, and cargo expanders kill your velocity, so don't fit either of them.

Adjusted the Wreathe fit posted earlier and came up with this.

[Wreathe, AP]

Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Capacitor Power Relay II

EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I

3.59 s align
224 m/s velocity
3.64k m3 cargo
Basically same tank as the earlier fit. (a bit less hull, but not enough to matter)
Cap Relay because couldn't think of anything else, and should help avoid capping out on long warps (shouldn't happen anyways, but eh.)

Also dropped down to T1 rigs because I prefer being cheap.

that is almost exacly same build i used on my indy.
Im just looking for a ship that can go faster then this.
Justin Zaine
#13 - 2015-01-13 17:21:37 UTC
Just quit while you're ahead man, I would be surprised if half a dozen code alts haven't watchlisted you already.

He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.

He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.

Katarr Ne'asirr
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-01-13 17:42:59 UTC
im a waste of their time , if i have any cargo i dont AP with cargo , i do ap on way back , so they risk concord while gaining nothing
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#15 - 2015-01-13 19:21:07 UTC
As mentioned, autopiloting is stupid... but, if you must do it...

Fit for combination of speed and agility and warpspeed. Fit a MWD. Move it to the F1 slot. Set autopilot. Put coin or other small weight on F1 key. Go AFK. Try it out. It used to work like a charm.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.