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[news] Circadian Seekers: DED Advisory

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Kellie Dusette
Division 13
#61 - 2015-01-13 12:40:50 UTC
So funny. Kellie love for see this sista Shelby get for teased for talk this once. Make a change.

Elmund Egivand wrote:
To be considered for the Capsuleer Programme, the subject in question has to satisfy a number of criteria, other than having the genetic markers that indicate affinity with the capsuleer implants:

I love for very many much survey thing, Mista Egivand. Kellie can do?

If for strange questions because all Kellie for need become capsuleer was many much monies.

20/20 vision - Oh yes, for Kellie brown eyes very good for see. Have for special gift too, when breathing technique him correct in meditate can for see thing other people they can no see.

Perfect hearing - Kellie for hearing just fine.

Blood pressure within a very limited range - Kellie not know for this but Doctor Amelia she say for Kellie very healthy.

Peak physical condition - Kellie sister many much big model for do lots of this fitness. Make for Kellie do too and consume only this special diet for be fit and many pretty.

Minimal or zero genetic defects - Kellie have for silly robot arm I hate. Many tease all time since it come, reject from mother for no use in family business. Become capsuleer, find many much responsibles and do good at this job.

IQ at the 90% percentile of the population - I not know for this one. Kellie for very bad at this maths thing.

A degree in a suitable technical skill - Kellie fly Buzzard!

Ability to multitask - Kellie for seventeen now, make for woman and all woman is for very many good mutlitask.

Alot of money, or a sponsor with alot of money - Kellie family have for very many much money. All this time love for go shopping take big sista Kredit card.


Elmund Egivand wrote:
Then we have to go through all those conditioning regime that has a very good chance of getting oneself killed. Plus the usual piloting training.

For this conditioning sista say for make grin and bear for it. Everyone this die sometimes in space and on planet sometime, if need conditioning for this reality is really funny.

Elmund Egivand wrote:
That's what made your sister unusual. She didn't give the impression she fulfilled these criteria.

Kellie think for more unusual silly survey thing on this criteria matter more than result in space.

Elmund Egivand wrote:
I was very sure I'm a grumpy sod who ate too many dry biscuits.

Why for make grumpy this biscuit? Kellie for always eat this dry biscuits and celery. Kellie always happy, and slim!
Candi LeMew
Division 13
#62 - 2015-01-13 12:45:26 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
I'm sure you've never salvaged in your life. Nanoribbons are worthless. I'm not really sure why me being an explorer and space janitor is relevant to the other topics in this thread but if people wish to continue focusing on that then I suppose I can't be too upset--things could be worse.

And if you have a problem with Thera that's perfectly fine with me. I'm not here to sell real estate and honestly there are some people I'd prefer not to share the system with. You can stay in your hole.

-Eran

Yeah I salvaged, way back when, before I began to win at life instead. I decided to, how you say, "grow a set" and went and got a real job that doesn't involve sucking other people's garbage out of space to make a living. Instead I murder people like you for a living and hobby.

🍌

Remember... in Anoikis Bob Is Always Watching...

"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2015-01-13 12:46:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Kellie Dusette wrote:
Stuff


When I said conditioning, I meant they will put you in a sensory deprivation chamber and throw you around for minutes, then hours, at end, in various environmental conditions, to get your body used to being inside a capsule.

This is before you are euthanised and reawakened in an implanted clone. Had to sign a form to waive the RMS of all responsibilities for my possible death in that chamber or they won't let me proceed.

At that stage of the Capsuleer Programme, death is permanent.

Robotic arms are not genetic defects.

Also, you seriously eat that crap and like it? For me that's just a minor step up over protein delicacies and dry rations! And I always feel grumpy for one reason or another.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Wendrika Hydreiga
#64 - 2015-01-13 12:47:51 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Here's the thing. To be considered for the Capsuleer Programme, the subject in question has to satisfy a number of criteria, other than having the genetic markers that indicate affinity with the capsuleer implants:

20/20 vision
Perfect hearing
Blood pressure within a very limited range (I was never told what the range was, the shady bastard)
Peak physical condition (for example, able to run 60km without pause, plus others. Last I remember, that test lasted a whole week)
Minimal or zero genetic defects
IQ at the 90% percentile of the population
A degree in a suitable technical skill
Ability to multitask (and pay full attention to all the tasks simultaneously)
Alot of money, or a sponsor with alot of money
Etc.

Then we have to go through all those conditioning regime that has a very good chance of getting oneself killed. Plus the usual piloting training.


Requirements he says! Ha!

That is so silly I don't even! And not even remotely true!
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2015-01-13 12:49:43 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Here's the thing. To be considered for the Capsuleer Programme, the subject in question has to satisfy a number of criteria, other than having the genetic markers that indicate affinity with the capsuleer implants:

20/20 vision
Perfect hearing
Blood pressure within a very limited range (I was never told what the range was, the shady bastard)
Peak physical condition (for example, able to run 60km without pause, plus others. Last I remember, that test lasted a whole week)
Minimal or zero genetic defects
IQ at the 90% percentile of the population
A degree in a suitable technical skill
Ability to multitask (and pay full attention to all the tasks simultaneously)
Alot of money, or a sponsor with alot of money
Etc.

Then we have to go through all those conditioning regime that has a very good chance of getting oneself killed. Plus the usual piloting training.


Requirements he says! Ha!

That is so silly I don't even! And not even remotely true!


I am very certain you got through the back door. And I am very certain you do not undock either.

((Well, all of that came from EVE: Source))

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#66 - 2015-01-13 12:50:46 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:


Requirements he says! Ha!

That is so silly I don't even! And not even remotely true!

Ayy, let's just throw money at governments and die in the process of training, right?
((bam))
Wendrika Hydreiga
#67 - 2015-01-13 13:01:37 UTC
You're saying stufff that doesn't even apply to half the capsuleer population! Not every capsuleer is part of the military or had stupid tests done to them!

Just because that's how ideal capsuleers are made doesn't mean it's the rule!
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#68 - 2015-01-13 13:04:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaret Victorian
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
You're saying stufff that doesn't even apply to half the capsuleer population! Not every capsuleer is part of the military or had stupid tests done to them!

Just because that's how ideal capsuleers are made doesn't mean it's the rule!

I was not in the military. I had a sponsor, yes. I even sponsored a gallentean guy myself. I am good, right?
Edit: look, I found his post-graduation selfie
More Edit: I remember now, a guy in my group died in the course of training. I guess he was not serious about his plans to become a pod pilot.
Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox
#69 - 2015-01-13 13:12:04 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
You're saying stufff that doesn't even apply to half the capsuleer population! Not every capsuleer is part of the military or had stupid tests done to them!

Just because that's how ideal capsuleers are made doesn't mean it's the rule!


Those regulations are roughly in place by all 12 colleges certified to produce independent Capsuleers, miss Hydreiga, not just the military ones. Only outlaw groups produce ones to whom they are not applicable.
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#70 - 2015-01-13 13:26:10 UTC
Considering the Concord warning, it was required because as of today, the Seekers changed behaviour!

The changed behaviour includes:

-They defend themselves when attacked
-They follow aggressors through warp
-They pod capsuleers (usually only other capsuleers do this, non capsuleers are generally pleased with eliminating the threat posed by the capsuleer's ship, leaving the pod alone as it's harmless)
-They possibly scramble the target priority list of drones, making them unreliable in focus-fire situations (this requires more investigation to verify!)

So be on your guard! It seems the Seekers are indeed learning & adapting from what they endure & observe! Do keep in mind, so far, Seekers don't agress themselves, they merely defend themselves from agression. While the Seeker damage has been reported as weak, they still are a threat to smaller ships when they fly in groups!

You can read more about it here: 'Circadian Seekers retaliate!'

So folks, stay alert!

Also, keep observing them & report any oddities, the more observations & research we do, the more accurate conclusions that can be derived!

Providing a new home for refugees in the Aurora Arcology

Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#71 - 2015-01-13 13:28:01 UTC
Candi LeMew wrote:

Yeah I salvaged, way back when, before I began to win at life instead. I decided to, how you say, "grow a set" and went and got a real job that doesn't involve sucking other people's garbage out of space to make a living. Instead I murder people like you for a living and hobby.



Shakin' in my boots, I am. So does this mean I'll have someone else hunting me or are you just trying to be edgy? Well, you know where to find me.

-Eran
Candi LeMew
Division 13
#72 - 2015-01-13 13:30:47 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
Candi LeMew wrote:

Yeah I salvaged, way back when, before I began to win at life instead. I decided to, how you say, "grow a set" and went and got a real job that doesn't involve sucking other people's garbage out of space to make a living. Instead I murder people like you for a living and hobby.



Shakin' in my boots, I am. So does this mean I'll have someone else hunting me or are you just trying to be edgy? Well, you know where to find me.

-Eran

Little bit paranoid there. All I was doing was explaining how you're kinda terrible and I'm kinda not.

🍌

Remember... in Anoikis Bob Is Always Watching...

"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James

Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#73 - 2015-01-13 13:32:11 UTC
Woah, they target pods? Where did you encounter them, Jandice?

On requirements: I guess most of us become lazy once we complete our training. I, for example, hate multitasking my tea and toasts, everything ends up on the floor.
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#74 - 2015-01-13 13:34:28 UTC
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
Considering the Concord warning, it was required because as of today, the Seekers changed behaviour!

The changed behaviour includes:

-They defend themselves when attacked
-They follow aggressors through warp
-They pod capsuleers (usually only other capsuleers do this, non capsuleers are generally pleased with eliminating the threat posed by the capsuleer's ship, leaving the pod alone as it's harmless)
-They possibly scramble the target priority list of drones, making them unreliable in focus-fire situations (this requires more investigation to verify!)

So be on your guard! It seems the Seekers are indeed learning & adapting from what they endure & observe! Do keep in mind, so far, Seekers don't agress themselves, they merely defend themselves from agression. While the Seeker damage has been reported as weak, they still are a threat to smaller ships when they fly in groups!

You can read more about it here: 'Circadian Seekers retaliate!'

So folks, stay alert!

Also, keep observing them & report any oddities, the more observations & research we do, the more accurate conclusions that can be derived!


Kudos on the quick reporting. I haven't even managed to get back in pod yet. As they adapt to us I wonder if there is some way we could try to communicate with them. It has been done with drones but I don't recall of any successful attempts yet with Sleepers.

-Eran
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#75 - 2015-01-13 13:39:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Jandice Ymladris
Eran Mintor wrote:

Kudos on the quick reporting. I haven't even managed to get back in pod yet. As they adapt to us I wonder if there is some way we could try to communicate with them. It has been done with drones but I don't recall of any successful attempts yet with Sleepers.

-Eran


A very good observation, and indeed soemthing we should look into more intensily!

It's indeed important we find a way to communicate more clearly, because right now, the only thing that can happen is further escalation.
Imagine two warring factions with armies at each side & constantly invading each others territory to retrieve data & tech, unable to communicate. I feel this is a reflection of our current situation between capsuleers & Seekers.
Rules of Engagement will assure that the situation wil keep escalating until an all out war occurs, unless a method of communication can be found to initiate diplomacy to defuse the situation!

Providing a new home for refugees in the Aurora Arcology

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#76 - 2015-01-13 13:48:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
Considering the Concord warning, it was required because as of today, the Seekers changed behaviour!

The changed behaviour includes:

-They defend themselves when attacked
-They follow aggressors through warp
-They pod capsuleers (usually only other capsuleers do this, non capsuleers are generally pleased with eliminating the threat posed by the capsuleer's ship, leaving the pod alone as it's harmless)
-They possibly scramble the target priority list of drones, making them unreliable in focus-fire situations (this requires more investigation to verify!)

So be on your guard! It seems the Seekers are indeed learning & adapting from what they endure & observe! Do keep in mind, so far, Seekers don't agress themselves, they merely defend themselves from agression. While the Seeker damage has been reported as weak, they still are a threat to smaller ships when they fly in groups!

You can read more about it here: 'Circadian Seekers retaliate!'

So folks, stay alert!

Also, keep observing them & report any oddities, the more observations & research we do, the more accurate conclusions that can be derived!


Welp. Time to dust off all the guns. Wait, so you say 'self-defense'? I guess I don't have to start shooting immediately. About time they got that protocol installed.

Jaret Victorian wrote:
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
You're saying stufff that doesn't even apply to half the capsuleer population! Not every capsuleer is part of the military or had stupid tests done to them!

Just because that's how ideal capsuleers are made doesn't mean it's the rule!

I was not in the military. I had a sponsor, yes. I even sponsored a gallentean guy myself. I am good, right?
Edit: look, I found his post-graduation selfie
More Edit: I remember now, a guy in my group died in the course of training. I guess he was not serious about his plans to become a pod pilot.


Damn, your batch is lucky. The batch I belonged to suffered about five fatalities that year, two of which were bit their own tongue and bled to death in the sensory deprivation chamber. Rest were from conditioning. The usual broken spine or haemorrhaging and ruptured organs and such. I personally broke every bone in my left arm and almost snapped my neck the first time. Ended up in a ward where the only thing to do was to watch the news channel about some Senator throwing a chair at another Senator during a Parliament proceeding. Mind, this was before the Republic had a Tribal Assembly.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Thea Isotalo
Doomheim
#77 - 2015-01-13 15:10:32 UTC
Jandice Ymladris wrote:


A very good observation, and indeed soemthing we should look into more intensily!

It's indeed important we find a way to communicate more clearly, because right now, the only thing that can happen is further escalation.
Imagine two warring factions with armies at each side & constantly invading each others territory to retrieve data & tech, unable to communicate. I feel this is a reflection of our current situation between capsuleers & Seekers.
Rules of Engagement will assure that the situation wil keep escalating until an all out war occurs, unless a method of communication can be found to initiate diplomacy to defuse the situation!



Thank you Ms. Ymladris!

Frankly, the previous prepubescent preschool pilot philosophy podium in this thread was giving me papules and a penchant for aggressive alliteration. But I digress...

Your quick reporting saved the day!

Any word if they're targeting civilian ships? Faction Navy or CONCORD? Anything more on how the drones are able to effect them? Damage types? Best weapon systems to use on them (when needed)? Any way we can set up a comm channel so we don't have to worry about the kiddies jackin' it yo?

Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#78 - 2015-01-13 15:56:14 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:

Jaret Victorian wrote:
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
You're saying stufff that doesn't even apply to half the capsuleer population! Not every capsuleer is part of the military or had stupid tests done to them!

Just because that's how ideal capsuleers are made doesn't mean it's the rule!

I was not in the military. I had a sponsor, yes. I even sponsored a gallentean guy myself. I am good, right?
Edit: look, I found his post-graduation selfie
More Edit: I remember now, a guy in my group died in the course of training. I guess he was not serious about his plans to become a pod pilot.


Damn, your batch is lucky. The batch I belonged to suffered about five fatalities that year, two of which were bit their own tongue and bled to death in the sensory deprivation chamber. Rest were from conditioning. The usual broken spine or haemorrhaging and ruptured organs and such. I personally broke every bone in my left arm and almost snapped my neck the first time. Ended up in a ward where the only thing to do was to watch the news channel about some Senator throwing a chair at another Senator during a Parliament proceeding. Mind, this was before the Republic had a Tribal Assembly.

Woah, that was harsh. I guess we were lucky, it was a hard period though. I'm really glad I wanted to become a marine or even a mercenary, my "pre" capsuleer training helped a lot and I was in a good physical condition. Got some scratches, but completed the course nonetheless.

Thea Isotalo wrote:

Thank you Ms. Ymladris!

Frankly, the previous prepubescent preschool pilot philosophy podium in this thread was giving me papules and a penchant for aggressive alliteration. But I digress...

Your quick reporting saved the day!

Any word if they're targeting civilian ships? Faction Navy or CONCORD? Anything more on how the drones are able to effect them? Damage types? Best weapon systems to use on them (when needed)? Any way we can set up a comm channel so we don't have to worry about the kiddies jackin' it yo?


Jandice Ymladris said that they are only attacking if provoked, so my guess is that they are not attacking civilians. Yet. I suggest you join Arek'Jaalan channel for the discussions.
Jennifer Starfall
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#79 - 2015-01-13 16:37:59 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:

Welp. Time to dust off all the guns. Wait, so you say 'self-defense'? I guess I don't have to start shooting immediately. About time they got that protocol installed.


Careful, Elmund.

I learned very quickly that the Sleepers are much smarter than Rogue Drones.

The Seekers have been observing us for a bit now, and they may have noted our tendency to aggress defensively. They've also been attacked, unprovoked, by capsuleer ships, and may view the mere presence of one within "engagement range" as a threat requiring self defense.

I think it would be prudent for anyone with Seekers on grid to take the defensive precautions and be prepare for an unprovoked attack.

Jennifer Starfall

Fifth Seyllin Conference

epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#80 - 2015-01-13 23:38:40 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Hmm, came across a battle site on a losec gate today, no one in local within 3 systems and half a dozen sansha wrecks and 3 circadian wrecks. Looks like they are not that friendly with anyone.

I wonder what they will do with those camping HS gates and stations, saw them at most of the hs choke points as I headed for home in WHSpace, didn't seem to do anything, glad to be home somewhere sane, at least one knows who is going to shoot at you here.Lol

Edit:-local *shudder*
If they decide to cleanse Jita undock, anyone know where I can get a scope live stream subscription?

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