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is it possible to fix faction standings?

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Wuu Tang
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-01-13 05:51:26 UTC
I bought a toon thats -9.84 on gallente federation. I cant travel gallente air space without getting blown up by gallente navy. Is this possible to fix?
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#2 - 2015-01-13 05:55:12 UTC
Yes.

Look up the faction standing repair plan. I would link it for you but my phone is pants.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#3 - 2015-01-13 05:56:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabriz Adoudel
Possible? Yes. Google "EVE faction standings repair plan".

Desireable? That depends upon what you want to do in game. If your Caldari and/or Amarr standings are excellent, you are in a good position to make a *lot* of ISK trading in Jita or Amarr.


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eve+faction+standings+repair+plan - it's the first option. Note that this *will* tank your Caldari/Amarr standings from extraordinarily good to mediocre and the cost may not be worth paying.

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Wuu Tang
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-01-13 06:03:14 UTC
Is there no other way to do this? I dont wanna lose and turn negative on other faction while trying to get my gallente faction to positive.
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2015-01-13 06:12:07 UTC
SoE give a decent increase to Gallente faction. So if you run SoE which you can do without being in gallente space then You can get Gallente back to positive while at the same time earning some decent LP. The guild that people told you to look up I am sure is very helpful I only mention this as it is a special case for Gallente. SoE does help Minmatar also just not as much.



This link is a chart to show the relationship.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#6 - 2015-01-13 06:23:28 UTC
Wuu Tang wrote:
Is there no other way to do this? I dont wanna lose and turn negative on other faction while trying to get my gallente faction to positive.


Can you post your faction to player standings with all four empires, we can then offer better advice.

Post them not including the effects of the Diplomacy or COnnections skills.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#7 - 2015-01-13 07:07:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
I'm sure DeMichael Crimson, author of The Plan, will be along shortly...
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Faction_Standing_Repair_Plan

Notice that he is positive with all four player factions.

Getting to +6.0 with all four player factions takes careful work (and Connections 5). Getting above that with all four is possible, but much harder, as there are few ways to gain standing without losing the opposing standing.

I aim for higher than -2.0 which is a lot easier to manage, though technically all you need is higher than -5.0

Example: Sisters of EVE epic arc "Blood-Stained Stars", raises any player faction of your choice, without hurting any other faction standing. Sisters of EVE storyline missions raise Gallente, with an insignificant loss of Amarr and Caldari. Gallente corp storylines too (at the expense of Caldari), and there are Gallente corps with offices outside Gallente space, e.g. Quafe. Then there is pirate faction tag turn-ins (can be costly).
Wuu Tang
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-01-13 08:25:35 UTC
heres my current standings.

Caldari 8.85 ( 8.63 )
Amar 5.79 ( 4.99)
Minmatar -3.28 ( -5.81 )
Gallante -6.67 ( -9.10 )

I like the idea of running SoE missions to raise gallante and minmatar standings. Will this be viable? not sure if this is actually a good way to fix my standings considering I have such a terrible standing on gallante and minmatar. I just want enough standings to be able to fly in gallante and minmatar airspace without getting blown up by their navy. I also wonder how long it would take?

My social skills.

Connections 4
Criminal connections 3
Diplomacy 4
Distribution connections 2
Fast talk 3
Mining Connections 2
Negotiation 3
Security connection 3
Social 5


Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#9 - 2015-01-13 08:25:44 UTC
SoE missions are the best way IMO. 3 combat story lines took me from -9 something to above -5 after diplomacy. I stopped paying too much attention once I saw I was over -5 but not a whole lot of running later and I was almost neutral. and that was getting unlucky with a bunch of mats for war and whatnot where the standings bonuses aren't as good. I slid a bit recently.

plus SoE missions barely touch your amarr/caldari standings.

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Wuu Tang
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-01-13 08:28:17 UTC
I forgot how much standing is needed to avoid agression from the faction navy, is it -4? I wont get blown up below -3.99?
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#11 - 2015-01-13 08:31:00 UTC
-5 is when they start shooting you. so with diplomacy 4 you should get there pretty quick. Diplo 3 takes my -6.67 to minmatar and puts it up to -4.67

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Wuu Tang
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-01-13 08:37:57 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
-5 is when they start shooting you. so with diplomacy 4 you should get there pretty quick. Diplo 3 takes my -6.67 to minmatar and puts it up to -4.67


Ah thanks, I have diplo 4 and still have my Gallante standings at -6.67. Any idea how long it would take to get that below -5 running SoE missions?
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-01-13 10:45:28 UTC
ergherhdfgh wrote:
This link is a chart to show the relationship.

That graph is incorrect. An easy way to tell is by looking at Thukker Tribe's Inter-Faction Relationship with Minmatar Republic.

A few years ago Thukker Tribe was granted status as a minor Faction which gave Thukker Tribe positive standing with Minmatar and Vice Versa.

This graph has been updated and shows the correct Inter-Faction Relationships.

As for my standings - Eveboard doesn't show the bonus increase I gain from Connections level 5.



DMC
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#14 - 2015-01-13 10:57:45 UTC
Wuu Tang wrote:
heres my current standings.

Caldari 8.85 ( 8.63 )
Amar 5.79 ( 4.99)
Minmatar -3.28 ( -5.81 )
Gallante -6.67 ( -9.10 )

I like the idea of running SoE missions to raise gallante and minmatar standings. Will this be viable? not sure if this is actually a good way to fix my standings considering I have such a terrible standing on gallante and minmatar. I just want enough standings to be able to fly in gallante and minmatar airspace without getting blown up by their navy. I also wonder how long it would take?

My social skills.

Connections 4
Criminal connections 3
Diplomacy 4
Distribution connections 2
Fast talk 3
Mining Connections 2
Negotiation 3
Security connection 3
Social 5





That 8.63 Caldari faction standing is a significant asset. Think carefully before you sacrifice it. (Not saying do not, just be aware you are losing something of value).

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Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#15 - 2015-01-13 18:12:20 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:


That 8.63 Caldari faction standing is a significant asset. Think carefully before you sacrifice it. (Not saying do not, just be aware you are losing something of value).

Forgive my ignorance, as I don't bother much with standings (other than grinding out 8.0 on SoE for jump clone access), but what value exists for having a high faction standing? I only ever recall hearing about faction standings affecting whether a POS could be set up or not, and that has since been removed.

Brokerage and taxes, yes, but wouldn't it be significantly easier to simply grind up corp standings as opposed to faction standings?
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#16 - 2015-01-13 18:22:04 UTC
Winter Archipelago wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, as I don't bother much with standings (other than grinding out 8.0 on SoE for jump clone access), but what value exists for having a high faction standing? I only ever recall hearing about faction standings affecting whether a POS could be set up or not, and that has since been removed.

Brokerage and taxes, yes, but wouldn't it be significantly easier to simply grind up corp standings as opposed to faction standings?

Order of checks:
1. Faction to NPC Corp.
2. Personal to NPC Corp.
So once you have 5.0 faction, you can run level 4 missions for any corp in that faction.

Only personal standing is checked for jumpclones and reprocessing.

I typically aim for 8.0 corp standing, and ignore faction standing unless it falls below -2.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#17 - 2015-01-13 20:56:28 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
That 8.63 Caldari faction standing is a significant asset. Think carefully before you sacrifice it. (Not saying do not, just be aware you are losing something of value).


a few SoE storylines will barely move that caldari standing, and they give rather significant gallente gains. I'm up to 6.45 SoE Faction standing, and my caldari standing is still over 9.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2015-01-13 21:10:00 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:



That 8.63 Caldari faction standing is a significant asset. Think carefully before you sacrifice it. (Not saying do not, just be aware you are losing something of value).


They have removed most of the benefit of having a high faction standing. SoE barely touches Caldari. He won't barely even notice the difference.

He'll still have access to JCs as I am sure with a faction standing that high he has multiple corps above that and he will still have access to all locator agents unless he goes down below I think something like 6. He can run SoE for a good long while without having to worry.

So that the OP knows standing increases are expressed in a percentage and that is a percentage of the difference from where you are to perfect so the lower you are the more that it is. Example if you are 0 with a faction and you do a storyline that gives you a 10% increase that is 10% of the difference between 0 and 10 which is to say 1. Now if you are 5 with a faction and get a 10% increase from a storyline then the difference from 5 to 10 is 5 and 10% of that is 0.5.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2015-01-13 21:18:41 UTC
another note worth mentioning you can view transaction history on any NPC corp or faction through the character sheet's standings tab by right clicking. If you go inactive for a while they seem to wipe them so IDK how that works with a transfer so they might be empty now but regarless you can do one storyline and see how it affects everyone else using that method.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#20 - 2015-01-13 22:17:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabriz Adoudel
Winter Archipelago wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:


That 8.63 Caldari faction standing is a significant asset. Think carefully before you sacrifice it. (Not saying do not, just be aware you are losing something of value).

Forgive my ignorance, as I don't bother much with standings (other than grinding out 8.0 on SoE for jump clone access), but what value exists for having a high faction standing? I only ever recall hearing about faction standings affecting whether a POS could be set up or not, and that has since been removed.

Brokerage and taxes, yes, but wouldn't it be significantly easier to simply grind up corp standings as opposed to faction standings?



It's for market broker fees primarily.

Faction to player standing makes up 70% of the broker fee factor, corp to player makes up 30%. I have a good Gallente standing and an outstanding Federation Navy standing (7.5 and 9.99 respectively IIRC) which gives me a considerable advantage when trading in Dodixie 9-20 over my trade rivals there. It's like having the benefit of trading the Broker Relations skill to 8 (I have it trained to 5). On the flip side, if I trade at Jita, I have to put up with broker fees that are more in line with what a person with Broker Relations 2 would get, and that was *expensive* for me putting up a few multi-billion ISK sell orders lately.

Not saying you shouldn't sacrifice some of that Caldari standing to push up Gallente a bit, just be aware that the price for doing so is non-zero. The decision is yours. I would pay a billion ISK to improve my Gallente standings from 7.5 to 9.0 if the option existed.

SoE missions will not cripple your Caldari standings but will knock them down a little. Again, it's your call. Try one of them, see how much it messes with you.

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