Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Okay my mission is "only battleships spawning at my optimal range without any of those boring frigates and cruisers... Oh and no acceleration gate"

So it's alot like a blockade but better...

Okay now that the mandatory "why this is horrible" is over: From what i heard while talking to Corbexx about the PVE side of eve apperantly the main reason there are so comparatively few missions is that the tools (ie the "level editor" for EVE) they use to make them is derived from the POS set up stuff...

And as anyone who ever interacted with that **** has told you THAT **** BLOWS CHUNKS. But from what i hear they are working on better tools that might allow a bit more variation and depth... (And if i'm really lucky an extra HQ site or two, since those 3 are wearing a little thin)

I've not read any detractions to this idea which are not insurmountable.

Obviously CCP can implement any rules they please. I'm not suggesting a system which permits absolutely anything to be done. And Ben Ishikela has already come up with a solution for one potential abuse in an unregulated system.

Largely I'm looking for a system which works within the same constraints and limitations that existing mission have on them, but simply allows players to create their own story-lines (like fan-fic in game, but largely involving ones own creations). It's not about abusively easy quests with outrageously lucrative rewards and more about the fiction, building and creating stories.

The real reward is in enjoying the created story lines, learning about new characters and personalities, the lives and activities of New Eden's inhabitants, plots and intrigue, systems, worlds, corporations, etc... CCP could even implement some sort of achievement system to go along with these types of missions. Or better mission logs with a real history that one can keep and maintain and see all the mission activities and achievements one's character has accomplished.

Not everyone plays this game simply for ISK rewards and PvP. Some people actually enjoy the EVE universe and its fiction. I for one like the risk of being exposed to PvP in games, and will engage in it from time-to-time, but largely want to enjoy the gaming world and its stories, while progressing my character.

Now I can see having a much more intricate and integrated player-created mission system which even becomes part of the economy, but that's not my main drive at the moment with this idea.

This is a system that can slowly build upon itself, with new features and capabilities added over time. Ultimately I can see it becoming one of the primary aspects of EVE into the next decade, where the players have created much of the missions and stories of New Eden. Even PvP can be worked into such a system, particularly for player created missions out in Null-Sec. Say for providing security on a mission which takes mission runners into enemy territory.

so whos going to pay all the CCP devs that have to be hired/reassigned to trawling through masses of craptastic joke-missions day after day to find one not completely terribly bad and have to make tweaks to it anyways just to make it acceptable for EVE.

fact is, it would be more money-efficient for CCP to just hire people to make missions, that would just become as tedious as the rest as people went through them for the 1000th time.

It's been stated a lot of times how this idea would be bad, so I'll leave some comments on what might be a better way to achieve the same goal.
1) Form/hire a team with the sole focus of rewriting/updating outdated code, as applicable. Common suggestions include: POS code, missile code, corp roles. *This is the most optimistic.
2) Establish a forum, strictly ISD'd by design, whereby legitimate ideas submitted by those people who enjoy the details would be raised to CCP devs. *The forum would have to tightly controlled to prevent to encourage only relevant posting. The upside being that crowd-sourcing could improve new mission dev time or saved time to contribute to better releases.
3) Hire interns to code new missions on an in-house server, transfer to SiSi for testing. *Interns being cheap, his might be more realistic.
4) A combo of 1/2 and 2/3 are also desirable options. *2 would allow for more player input, if so desired.

This is not to say I don't agree with you, missions are monotonous and sometimes tedious, but allowing player missions is not the way to fix that.

Edit: Dynamic content is also a good idea, but the devs are picky about getting into legacy code.

Not true, they just did a dev blog about how they are rewriting or have rewritten the mission system to make it EASIER to add new missions. Its in with one of the burner blogs.

Oh really? Interesting.... From what I've heard they're hesitant to rewrite certain code, as opposed to updates, but if that is changing it's a very good thing.

Your playing the wrong game your don't live "The" story you become a part of your story

I like the OP's idea but I would have to agree with the fact that it will be abused because there's always the people out there that find the flaws and loop holes and ruin the game for everyone else.

Just do missions in null and announce your location and faction fit, some players are sure to come write up a nice plot-twist.