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Sean Dunaway
Star Nation
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#1 - 2015-01-12 14:46:15 UTC
I have learned that everyone in this game is out to get you. I have decided to make no friends and instead kill everyone I see, besides my real life friends who are in this alliance I will be joining. (It is nullsec) Any suggestions on how to not die? Went on a "roam" with my friends yesterday. Brought my cynabal. Next thing I knew they were all shooting me. I nearly killed their confessor. I guess you can never know who is a friend. What?

Elegance Beyond Your Dreams

Salvation Behind Your Screams
Solecist Project
#2 - 2015-01-12 14:50:47 UTC
It's not the other people's fault you lack the skills to recognise bad apples.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#3 - 2015-01-12 14:53:30 UTC
Relevant:

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#4 - 2015-01-12 14:54:03 UTC
Ouch, pitty.
How did you come by these "friends"?

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#5 - 2015-01-12 14:55:54 UTC
As your title states, and you didn't even follow it.
there are many stories in eve over trusting people, real life friends and friends you meet in eve

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Jean Luc Lemmont
Carebears on Fire
#6 - 2015-01-12 15:31:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Jean Luc Lemmont
Sean Dunaway wrote:
I have learned that everyone in this game is out to get you. I have decided to make no friends and instead kill everyone I see, besides my real life friends who are in this alliance I will be joining. (It is nullsec) Any suggestions on how to not die? Went on a "roam" with my friends yesterday. Brought my cynabal. Next thing I knew they were all shooting me. I nearly killed their confessor. I guess you can never know who is a friend. What?


You have learned one of the most valuable lessons Eve has to teach - trusting people who have not earned it is a bad idea in Eve and in real life.

For some actual useful information I will offer you the following:


  • If a corporation lets you in without doing any kind of interview/background check - use caution. It's either a trap, or your stuff will be at risk when they let in the next awoxer.
  • Fully vet any corporation you plan to join. They'll be doing it to you, you should be doing it to them. Check killboards, forum posts, reddit, do a google search on prominent members. If anything seems fishy, run, do not walk, in the other direction.
  • Never, EVER, pay to join a corporation.
  • Move in slowly. Do not bring all your expensive assets to the corporate HQ system for a few days at least. This gives you a chance to check out the corp from the inside and see what the culture's like.


This won't protect you 100% of the time -- nothing in this game is meant to be 100% safe.
But if you do your due diligence, you can protect yourself from most of the bad things that happen in this game.

Will I get banned for boxing!?!?!

This thread has degenerated to the point it's become like two bald men fighting over a comb. -- Doc Fury

It's bonuses, not boni, you cretins.
Ryuu Towryk
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-01-12 15:39:51 UTC
Hell, I don't even trust myself.
Blink
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-01-12 15:42:49 UTC
Following that rule is impossible as you would have to trust the dude who suggested it to you.
Sean Dunaway
Star Nation
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#9 - 2015-01-12 15:44:58 UTC
Don't trust the devs

Elegance Beyond Your Dreams

Salvation Behind Your Screams
Solecist Project
#10 - 2015-01-12 15:52:51 UTC
It always amuses me how people only ever come up with defensive measures.......

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-01-12 15:54:22 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
It always amuses me how people only ever come up with defensive measures.......


OP started on the offensive by, according to himself, shooting everybody.
Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-01-12 15:55:17 UTC
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Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three
Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#13 - 2015-01-12 16:00:58 UTC
I'm not entirely certain how this thread is supposed to work.

If your starting definition say "Trust Nobody" and I give you an advice, you aren't supposed to trust me as per your definition.

But if I confirm your statement and say that you are correct and shouldn't really trust anyone the things start to be a bit messy.

Let's say you trust my confirmation that you shouldn't trust anyone. In this case you have trusted me despite your original statement, but at the same time you don't trust me because you found my advice ("trust nobody") true and thus not trusting me either.
In the other case, where I say "trust nobody" and you decide to stick to your original statement and don't trust me to trust nobody, you are sticking with your original statement but at the same time don't trust me when I confirm it.

So, in conclusion, I will give you one advice:

"Trust nobody"

and you decide what you're going to do with this mess. Shocked
Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2015-01-12 16:05:51 UTC
Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:
I'm not entirely certain how this thread is supposed to work.

If your starting definition say "Trust Nobody" and I give you an advice, you aren't supposed to trust me as per your definition.

But if I confirm your statement and say that you are correct and shouldn't really trust anyone the things start to be a bit messy.

Let's say you trust my confirmation that you shouldn't trust anyone. In this case you have trusted me despite your original statement, but at the same time you don't trust me because you found my advice ("trust nobody") true and thus not trusting me either.
In the other case, where I say "trust nobody" and you decide to stick to your original statement and don't trust me to trust nobody, you are sticking with your original statement but at the same time don't trust me when I confirm it.

So, in conclusion, I will give you one advice:

"Trust nobody"

and you decide what you're going to do with this mess. Shocked


My mind went boom.

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three
Solecist Project
#15 - 2015-01-12 16:09:20 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
It always amuses me how people only ever come up with defensive measures.......


OP started on the offensive by, according to himself, shooting everybody.

Oh no, I mean in context of trust.
People always only come up with defensive measures,
like checking APIs, not letting people access hangars... that kind of stuff.

On one side it amuses me, but on the other I know that the offensive measures
are secrets well kept to ones self ... and worth dozens of billions up to pricelessness.

I am just happily observing what people have to say about this. ^_^

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#16 - 2015-01-12 16:15:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Solecist Project wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
It always amuses me how people only ever come up with defensive measures.......


OP started on the offensive by, according to himself, shooting everybody.

Oh no, I mean in context of trust.
People always only come up with defensive measures,
like checking APIs, not letting people access hangars... that kind of stuff.

On one side it amuses me, but on the other I know that the offensive measures
are secrets well kept to ones self ... and worth dozens of billions up to pricelessness.

I am just happily observing what people have to say about this. ^_^

Basically a titan on an NPC corp alt.

That will be seen one day and converted into a killmail by PL in lowsec.

EDIT: Boat will take frigates and make sure to get on the killmail.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Solecist Project
#17 - 2015-01-12 16:17:06 UTC
That's interesting ... but I don't really get it.

How is that an offensive measure?

I'm not into nullsec things. :)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Solecist Project
#18 - 2015-01-12 16:25:27 UTC
Oh btw I can contribute a defensive measure.

Those who are liked by the most ...
... most often don't share all of their thoughts.


And another one is that one's use of language most often is his biggest weakness.
This counts for both side of the equation.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Sean Dunaway
Star Nation
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#19 - 2015-01-12 16:30:48 UTC
Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:
I'm not entirely certain how this thread is supposed to work.

If your starting definition say "Trust Nobody" and I give you an advice, you aren't supposed to trust me as per your definition.

But if I confirm your statement and say that you are correct and shouldn't really trust anyone the things start to be a bit messy.

Let's say you trust my confirmation that you shouldn't trust anyone. In this case you have trusted me despite your original statement, but at the same time you don't trust me because you found my advice ("trust nobody") true and thus not trusting me either.
In the other case, where I say "trust nobody" and you decide to stick to your original statement and don't trust me to trust nobody, you are sticking with your original statement but at the same time don't trust me when I confirm it.

So, in conclusion, I will give you one advice:

"Trust nobody"

and you decide what you're going to do with this mess. Shocked


I don't have to trust you, but I can take your advice.

Elegance Beyond Your Dreams

Salvation Behind Your Screams
Solecist Project
#20 - 2015-01-12 16:35:27 UTC
Oh there's another thing certain people of certain professions like to abuse.


Trust isn't gained by giving something ...
... but by making the other person give you something.

I won't go into details... boring .....

Damn, I can't reach the ashtray. Could you random person please pass it over? :D


Hilarious fun fact about myself: When someone asks me for my lighter ...
... to light up a cigarette ...
... even when it's right next to me ...
... I just say No and ignore them.

Reactions are hilarious! XD

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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