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Give us more fleet channels

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vikari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-01-12 04:35:42 UTC
Introduce multiple chat channels to fleets. Let a fleet boss add 2 or 3 additional channels as needed, and assign moderator rights to a member or members of the fleet. Limit access to the channels for fleet members only and have the channels collapse after the fleet is over,.

Why: To add more effective communication to Eve's fleets that are decently secure (limit to fleet members), and easily manageable (moderators are limited to that fleet).

Back story: How many fleets have had to deal with both a fleet channel and a logi channel? Is it annoying seeing an AFK person in that channel from a previous fleet? Capital / super fleets that have cap transfer chains are another example.
Iain Cariaba
#2 - 2015-01-12 11:16:12 UTC
This already exists.

It's called teamspeak or mumble.
Rolbur
Cyclone Research
#3 - 2015-01-12 11:36:46 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
This already exists.

It's called teamspeak or mumble.


If you don't know what he is talking about. just shut your blow hole.

This is a good idea and mumble and teamspeak have nothing to do with it.
FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#4 - 2015-01-12 12:07:11 UTC
Like regular chat channels?

Warp to me just has a channel for the basilisks, one for the scimitars where they sort out the logiing... As well as the Machster race (for the machariels) Elm Street (for the nightmares) and Windicators (for the vindies) that way everyone has a "place to hang out" with like minded people and we can use voice comms/fleet for shooting the **** and/or yelling at people as required...
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#5 - 2015-01-12 12:11:17 UTC
Not sure if the idea has a merit. What you want are fleet channels for things like logistics, particular ships and the likes, right? EVE players already use them in the form of permanent dedicated channels every player keeps in their respective Player Channels list in the chat channels list. They can also be moderated easily by assigning proper moderators. The only downside they have is that people "forget" to leave the channels once a fleet is over, which results in clutter and, for instance, difficulties to form a cap chain if no moderator is around to clean the channel up.
On the other hand, if an FC would have to create and assign moderators to these channels anew with every fleet and people couldn't join them on their own from the chat channels list window, it would create a lot more workload for the FC and more effort for the fleet members.

As an alternative to the creation of new channels with every fleet, I'd probably rather like to be able to link existing dedicated, permanent channels easier, read: not in the MOTD which everyone ignores.

@Iain Cariaba
Existing voice coms aren't really a great solution to that. At least in Teamspeak, you'd need to be in different channels and wouldn't be able to follow what the FC does in the main channel. Or you use different TS servers, but then you end up with a lot criss-cross communication and would need to mute and unmute yourself all the time and alt-tab out of the game. No idea how that works on Mumble. The ingame EVE-voice could be a solution to that, but it's rather clunky and not exactly a joy to use. Moreover, you can only use it fleet-wide and not for fleet-external channels.

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.

Iain Cariaba
#6 - 2015-01-12 13:09:27 UTC
Rolbur wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
This already exists.

It's called teamspeak or mumble.


If you don't know what he is talking about. just shut your blow hole.

This is a good idea and mumble and teamspeak have nothing to do with it.

OP's failure to properly moderate channels does not require coded support from CCP. Creating a new channel is incredibly simple, as is assigning moderators who can boot everyone from the channel after the operation is over.

Everything OP wants can already be done with in game tools.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#7 - 2015-01-12 14:35:17 UTC
Rolbur wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
This already exists.

It's called teamspeak or mumble.


If you don't know what he is talking about. just shut your blow hole.

This is a good idea and mumble and teamspeak have nothing to do with it.


ooookay then. This already exists just make a chat ch and assign moderators to it
Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2015-01-12 14:35:27 UTC
vikari wrote:
Introduce multiple chat channels to fleets. Let a fleet boss add 2 or 3 additional channels as needed, and assign moderator rights to a member or members of the fleet. Limit access to the channels for fleet members only and have the channels collapse after the fleet is over,.

Why: To add more effective communication to Eve's fleets that are decently secure (limit to fleet members), and easily manageable (moderators are limited to that fleet).

Back story: How many fleets have had to deal with both a fleet channel and a logi channel? Is it annoying seeing an AFK person in that channel from a previous fleet? Capital / super fleets that have cap transfer chains are another example.




Good idea, +1Please add this CCP : )
FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#9 - 2015-01-12 15:54:31 UTC
Today i logged into eve after downtime and got jumped by a few of the WTM basilisks "Might i enquire what you are doing in basichat?" because i had forgotten to leave it the night before(when i was flying a basilisk)...

That sort of stuff could easily obliviate the need for this sort of "channel purges"...

@Vikari i realise i might need to be nicer since you gave me my first faction battleship (Woot navythron) way back when, but this idea is flat out not required...
Brunhild Aex
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-01-12 16:02:33 UTC
vikari wrote:
Introduce multiple chat channels to fleets.


You have my support!
Sarah Nahrnid
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2015-01-13 20:16:02 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Rolbur wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
This already exists.

It's called teamspeak or mumble.


If you don't know what he is talking about. just shut your blow hole.

This is a good idea and mumble and teamspeak have nothing to do with it.

OP's failure to properly moderate channels does not require coded support from CCP. Creating a new channel is incredibly simple, as is assigning moderators who can boot everyone from the channel after the operation is over.

Everything OP wants can already be done with in game tools.


You are spot on, to a point;
The issue is standard users can't see who the moderators are and thus, can't poke them to moderate said channel which presents the real issue.

His talking about a set of temporary channels which are created by forming the fleet, moderated by the Fleet Boss and anyone the boss designates from that point on. I personally envision these channels being dropped once the fleet was over or got kicked automatically once the fleet was over.

Personally speaking, I can see this helping all aspects of fleet combat especially in 0.0 where multiple private channels are required.

Anyone who's flown anything that requires a cap chain (or co-ordination between say triage cycles) can see how this could be beneficial.

Anyone who's flown a Guardian/Basi and joined the correct channel to see one or two special snowflakes who idle in there knows how much of a pain in the ass this is.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#12 - 2015-01-13 20:37:40 UTC
This could even be part of the fleet setup. So, the FC can save his fleet setup and it includes the special snowflake channels he wants already built into it. When he forms a new fleet, it already includes all the special snowflake channels and he just assigns moderators.

In the alternative, fleet setups could have the option to be more customized. As an FC, my typical fleet setup looks like this:

Fleet
Wing 1
DPS 1
DPS 2
Tackle
Logistics
E-War

I currently have the setup above saved and load it every time I form a new fleet. If I could have a chat channel assigned to each squad and automatically moderated by the squad leader, that would be pretty cool. Or maybe I decide that my DPS squads don't need their own channel. Give me the choices to customize it as I see fit, preset it the way I think will be most efficient, and save it to make it less of a hassle to get a fleet setup and get in the fight.

Or, for larger fleets, you could preset the channel at the Wing Commander level. "All logistics ships join the Logistics Wing." Give the Wing Commander the right to see the Wing Composition, moderate the chat for that wing, and boot those who don't belong in his chat or his wing.

Basically, this is a good idea. Fleets should be less of a pain to properly organize and get going quickly.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Aiyshimin
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#13 - 2015-01-13 21:10:43 UTC
+1

great QOL feature