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The Case for Nauplius being a Blasphemer

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Sammie MacWinters
Gradient
Electus Matari
#21 - 2015-01-11 11:31:47 UTC
I don't like the sound of this "cultivation".
Although it's at least a step up from the normal "all Minmatar must die".
Bai'xao Meiyi
#22 - 2015-01-12 02:32:42 UTC
Arkady Vachon wrote:
The Amarr haven't burned Nauppy at the stake yet?


I offered the pathetic excuses for good, moral people of the Empires, naval vessels, A PLEX, ISK.. Just to enter my little competition to kill Nauplius. You know how many entrants there were? 3. For all the people badmouthing him on this galnet site, remember that.

3 of them had the conviction to consider entering a competition.

Sera Kor-Azor wrote:
The Sani Sabik are perpetrators of the most heinous of atrocities, and yet perhaps their greatest atrocity is the study of the sacred scriptures for the sole purpose of distorting and manipulating them. It is as though they wish to portray the Amarrian religion of the one true God in a negative light, instead of the shining beacon of light and truth that it really is.


You heard it here first; Ealur, Minmatar, Udorians, Khanid and Ni Kunni.

The systematic genocides, cultural extinctions, vitoxin infection, forced breeding camps, enslavement and war crimes are all less evil then a bunch of nerds arguing with an older bunch of nerds over the meaning of ancient texts.

Your suffering doesn't even register.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#23 - 2015-01-12 02:44:07 UTC
Bai'xao Meiyi wrote:
Arkady Vachon wrote:
The Amarr haven't burned Nauppy at the stake yet?


I offered the pathetic excuses for good, moral people of the Empires, naval vessels, A PLEX, ISK.. Just to enter my little competition to kill Nauplius. You know how many entrants there were? 3. For all the people badmouthing him on this galnet site, remember that.

3 of them had the conviction to consider entering a competition.


Some of us have been doing it without needing monetary incentive, especially from another blooder.
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#24 - 2015-01-12 02:47:30 UTC
Bai'xao Meiyi wrote:
Arkady Vachon wrote:
The Amarr haven't burned Nauppy at the stake yet?

I offered the pathetic excuses for good, moral people of the Empires, naval vessels, A PLEX, ISK.. Just to enter my little competition to kill Nauplius. You know how many entrants there were? 3. For all the people badmouthing him on this galnet site, remember that.


A cursory examination of publicly accessible records features a long and consistent record of military action against Nauplius and his assets by the pilots of PIE specifically and the Faithful generally. Perhaps you are interpreting the lack of interest in your "contest" with an equal lack of resolution by the brave combat pilots of the Empire to hinder the Butcher at every available opportunity.

I assure you, only the former is true.

"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13

Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2015-01-12 04:46:49 UTC
Synthetic Cultist wrote:
I, Synthia, hereby Declare that the Pilot known as Nauplius, is a Blasphemer.

For it is Written:

"In the beginning all things were as one.
God parted them and breathed life into his creation
Divided the parts and gave each its place
And unto each, bestowed purpose"

Therefore, the Minmatar as a People, have a Purpose, given to them by God.

It is Also Written:

"The great Amarr Empire was founded to cultivate the spirit of man."

The Purpose of the Amarr is to Cultivate the Spirit of Humanity. All Of It.

Therefore, the Purpose of the Minmatar People, includes having their Spirit Cultivated, in Accordance with God's Plan for the Universe.

Such is Self Evident.

Therefore, the "de-Minmatarisation" Experiments that Nauplius and Associates have Conducted, which Attempt to Remove the Nature of the Minmatar from them, are Against God's Purpose.

How can you Cultivate a Thing by Removing it ? You Cannot.

Thus, the "De-Minmatarisation" experiments are Blasphemous, as they Go against God's Plan for the Universe.


I, Synthia, state that as a Blasphemer, Nauplius should Not be Communicated with, by Any of the Faithful, whether they be True Believers, or the misguided followers of the Theology Council, until such time as he Repents, or the End Times arrive.

It is Written.


The purpose of Amarr is to Cultivate the Spirit of Humanity. All Of It.
If you won't try to cultivate this spirit in Blasphemer Nauplius and won't try to return him on the path by not communicating with him, you will not only contradict to your word, you will betray your belief, you will betray the God and Amarr.

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KaRa DaVuT
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2015-01-12 09:39:27 UTC
Luna Hanaya wrote:
you will betray your belief, you will betray the God and Amarr.


Like it ever existed....

I really wonder how can you reach that high mental state.. As we are paying a fortune in Tenal to be that high...

Holiness is in right action and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. What God desires is in your heart and on your mind... And what you decide to do every day, makes you - not your race - a good man - or not.

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2015-01-12 09:54:33 UTC
KaRa DaVuT wrote:
Luna Hanaya wrote:
you will betray your belief, you will betray the God and Amarr.


Like it ever existed....

I really wonder how can you reach that high mental state.. As we are paying a fortune in Tenal to be that high...


All you need to do is to believe in the Man in the Alternate Dimension, showering everyone with love and kindness. Unless you are not a believer, upon which he will smite you with lasers.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Average Space Elf
Praise Coleslaw
#28 - 2015-01-12 19:55:54 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
And to think, this guy is just an average space elf. Imagine an extraordinary one.


You're not missing much, to be honest. They're usually assholes.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#29 - 2015-01-12 21:34:27 UTC
I love the sound of blasphemers accusing other blasphemers of blasphemy in the morning.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Soren Tyrhanos
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#30 - 2015-01-13 00:20:49 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
I love the sound of blasphemers accusing other blasphemers of blasphemy in the morning.


And they said the Amarrian people don't have a sense of humour.....
Sera Kor-Azor
Amarrian Mission of the Sacred Word
#31 - 2015-01-14 08:18:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Sera Kor-Azor
Bai'xao Meiyi wrote:


You heard it here first; Ealur, Minmatar, Udorians, Khanid and Ni Kunni.

The systematic genocides, cultural extinctions, vitoxin infection, forced breeding camps, enslavement and war crimes are all less evil then a bunch of nerds arguing with an older bunch of nerds over the meaning of ancient texts.

Your suffering doesn't even register.


The systematic genocides, cultural extinctions, use of vitoxin, breeding camps, and for those considered as worthy, acceptance into the institution of blessed servitude, were all essential components of the greater good of God's divine plan.

The Almighty and one true God chose to bestow the knowledge of the jump gates to the Amarr for a reason. We are his chosen people. When the Amarr first encountered some of the lesser developed races, it was our duty and burden to bestow our culture and civilization upon these people. Some of these lesser cultures were so primitive, they were hunter and gatherer cultures, others were relying on copper wires for the transmission of simple data messages, or even piloting primitive ground vehicles that still used internal combustion engines. If left alone, these cultures would have eventually degenerated into the corrupt and self destructive peoples which would destroy the ecosystems of their own planets through pollution or planetary atomic war.

To the non-believer, the genocide of an entire race may seem like an atrocity. Yet the believer understands it is but the natural unfolding of God's divine and unseen plan. No mortal being, save the Emperors and Empress herself, can possibly comprehend it, yet it must be carried out. It is inevitable. Some races are simply too self destructive to be able to contribute to the greater good of society as a whole. In some cases, this is due to a genetic defect. These people would eventually destroy themselves through their own means. Their demise is merely accelerated by the faithful as an act of mercy. No one can escape God's plan.

Cultural extinction? There is no such thing. There is perhaps, a sort of 'cultural evolution'. The Amarrian culture is after all, simply the superior culture which managed to survive due to it's superiority. Have you ever heard an Amarrian opera? That is true culture. I would hardly call dancing around a fire and wearing masks while waving bones in the air as a form of 'culture'.

Vitoxin is, admittedly, a crude yet effective tool in the conversion process. It is unfortunate that so many converts cannot listen to reason, and have to be drawn towards the light of the divine truth with the carrot and stick of chemical compulsion. Fortunately, the need for vitoxin does not normally transcend more than a generation or so.

Forced breeding camps are in some cases, an unfortunate necessity. It has been decreed by Imperial order that the Amarrians may no longer seek servants from outside of the Empire. Unless we have the breeding camps, how are we to replace our labor forces? Unless we raise new generations of slaves, how are we to fulfill our divine mandate to bring peace and enlightenment to the galaxy through submission to God's will through the institution of blessed servitude?

Consider the Ealur, the Minmatar, Udorians, Khanid and the Ni Kunni. How much better off are they now than they were before the Amarrians brought them beneath the protection of our enlightened faith? The Khanid stand as proud and devout followers, the Ni Kunni are fully integrated. Even the Minmatar are well on their way towards divine enlightenment, at least those that serve the Empire. Consider the Kameria for example. The Amarrian faithful carefully selected the most martial of races and like a lump of unformed clay, improved upon them. The ferocity and tenacity of the Kameria that we know today are the result of careful and painstaking genetic selection and eugenics by our scientists, not to mention our rigorous training methods.

As for war crimes, well I agree with you....some of the Minmatar used the Jovian war as an opportunity to rebel against the role that God had chosen for them, and now fight against the faithful. These rebellious Minmatar are now guilty of war crimes against the Empire. This rebellion has set back the cause of the great reclaiming by untold centuries.

If God is the supreme architect, and nothing happens unless God wills it, then why did God decide to unleash the Jovians to stand against the Amarrian faithful in their quest to complete the great reclaiming?

Simple. God was punishing the Amarrians for their failure to seek out and destroy the Sani Sabik heretics.

This would all become clearer to you if you renounced your heathen ways and embraced the truth of the one true faith.

"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2015-01-14 08:27:59 UTC
Us Matari were doing fine until the Golden Fleet showed up in our skies scorching our upstart colonies to oblivion, thank you very much.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#33 - 2015-01-14 11:35:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
Sera Kor-Azor wrote:
To the non-believer, the genocide of an entire race may seem like an atrocity. Yet the believer understands it is but the natural unfolding of God's divine and unseen plan. No mortal being, save the Emperors and Empress herself, can possibly comprehend it, yet it must be carried out. It is inevitable. Some races are simply too self destructive to be able to contribute to the greater good of society as a whole. In some cases, this is due to a genetic defect. These people would eventually destroy themselves through their own means. Their demise is merely accelerated by the faithful as an act of mercy. No one can escape God's plan.


It is an atrocity. It is our divine imperative to Reclaim God's creations. You do not accomplish this by destroying them. To do so is to deny the Destiny of Faith. To do so is to believe that the Amarr are incapable of carrying out God's plan and so have no recourse but to condemn the souls of billions to oblivion. Are we so doubting?

While sometimes such responses have been necessary to quell violent uprising, it is always a tragedy when this occurs and one that represents a failure in ourselves. Remember that it was the teachings of a heretical Amarr, whose name was struck for his actions, that lead to the Starkmanirs' fall. We can only look back on such events in sorrow and ask ourselves how we can stop such a thing from ever being happening again.

Beliefs in such wanton destruction are what has lead to the existence of heretics like the Butcher and the Equilibrium of Man to begin with.

The Destiny of Faith is to Reclaim, not destroy.

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Forced breeding camps are in some cases, an unfortunate necessity. It has been decreed by Imperial order that the Amarrians may no longer seek servants from outside of the Empire. Unless we have the breeding camps, how are we to replace our labor forces? Unless we raise new generations of slaves, how are we to fulfill our divine mandate to bring peace and enlightenment to the galaxy through submission to God's will through the institution of blessed servitude?


How will we replace them? How will we raise new generations? How about the way God designed: natural procreation.

This practice is nothing short of sinful avarice. The Empire has 21 trillion slaves, rivaling the free population in size. There is no shortage, the stock is perfectly capable of maintaining itself on its own, if not expanding, and it does this without any need for outside prompting. If anything, a healthy slave population will expand beyond the ability for a Holder to support given enough time, if left to its own and without restriction. Slaves want to build and raise families as much as any free person, and the products of these families will be far healthier in mind, body, and spirit than those born to forced, loveless unions and shunted off to foster parents. And you can be sure that such camps will have damned the soul of the mother, because no one will ever find God in such godless places.

These camps are only used by those so weak in their faith and impatient in their manner that they can't wait a few generations for their stock to expand naturally. It flies in the face of the teachings of past emperors like the Most Holy Amash-Akura. No proper Holder needs to rely on such barbaric practices, which is why its most common users are Blood Raiders. There is a reason the Sani Sabik flock to this unholy method.


If we are to condemn heresy, we cannot allow it to proliferate in our own house.
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#34 - 2015-01-14 11:50:08 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:

It is an atrocity. It is our divine imperative to Reclaim God's creations. You do not accomplish this by destroying them. To do so is to deny the Destiny of Faith. To do so is to believe that the Amarr are incapable of carrying out God's plan and so have no recourse but to condemn the souls of billions to oblivion. Are we so doubting?

But Amarr can't, Jove kicked their butt in Vak'Atioth and I don't even want to imagine what happened to survivng crewmembers.
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#35 - 2015-01-14 16:07:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Utari Onzo
All this talk of slavery seems to have missed the fact it's merely the first step toward enlightenment for those cultures assimulated by the Amarrians, not a commercial enterprise to be 'protected'.

Theoretically, once the sins of these people have been cleansed with honest work, and God fearing ways instilled within them, they're meant to be passed further along the path towards eventual full intergration with the rest of the faithful and spiritual redemption. It's just 'inconvenient' for the Holders to follow this basic tenant, so they keep these people enslaved for generations at a time.

As a man of mixed Caldari/Amarrian heritage, I'm in the position though that I can say I don't believe in the principle of enslavement and instead believe the Faith should be propergated through missionary expeditions. Better to teach with the carrot then force with the stick if you want truely devoted followers.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#36 - 2015-01-14 16:22:45 UTC
Soren Tyrhanos wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
I love the sound of blasphemers accusing other blasphemers of blasphemy in the morning.


And they said the Amarrian people don't have a sense of humour.....


Down with this sort of thing.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#37 - 2015-01-15 07:20:52 UTC
Sera Kor-Azor wrote:
A bunch of racist, xenophobic claptrap that attempts to justify your crimes against humanity.


You imperial zealots really don't get it, do you? The rest of humanity would rather die (and take as many of you with us as possible if it comes to that) than submit to your twisted philosophy, culture or religion. We'll fight you to our last breath. Apparently your little "reclaiming" expedition into Jove space and subsequent drubbing taught you nothing. Apparently the Matari Rebellion taught you nothing. Apparently the battle to rid the cluster of Kuvakei taught you nothing. We don't want or need your stewardship or any of the other "gifts" you're offering at the barrel of a gun.


When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#38 - 2015-01-15 18:40:15 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Sera Kor-Azor wrote:
A bunch of racist, xenophobic claptrap that attempts to justify your crimes against humanity.


You imperial zealots really don't get it, do you? The rest of humanity would rather die (and take as many of you with us as possible if it comes to that) than submit to your twisted philosophy, culture or religion. We'll fight you to our last breath. Apparently your little "reclaiming" expedition into Jove space and subsequent drubbing taught you nothing. Apparently the Matari Rebellion taught you nothing. Apparently the battle to rid the cluster of Kuvakei taught you nothing. We don't want or need your stewardship or any of the other "gifts" you're offering at the barrel of a gun.




Your rhetoric is decades out of date.

The only people we have been using guns to convert in the last decades are the Blood Raiders of the Bleaks and the Sansha in Providence, and I think everyone civilized agrees that attacks on both of those menaces are a benefit to all civilized society.

The people using force to convert people to their way of thinking on a regular basis most often in the last decade have been the Matari. Fortunately, for everyone involved, y'all aren't very good at large military engagements and keep losing.

Admiral of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore 24th Imperial Crusade

Holder. Vassal of the Emperor Family

Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#39 - 2015-01-15 18:57:27 UTC
Nice try slaver Lok'ri but we have no "divine mandate" to "reclaim humanity", we have no single deity telling us what to do nor zealots your compatriot Kor-Azor attempting to justify anything. We make no apologies for wanting to rescue our kin from your clutches by whatever means necessary (excluding genocide, unlike you).

As for your crowing, we owned the warzone in the past and will do so again. Back under your bridge now, troll.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2015-01-16 11:21:03 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Sera Kor-Azor wrote:
A bunch of racist, xenophobic claptrap that attempts to justify your crimes against humanity.


You imperial zealots really don't get it, do you? The rest of humanity would rather die (and take as many of you with us as possible if it comes to that) than submit to your twisted philosophy, culture or religion. We'll fight you to our last breath. Apparently your little "reclaiming" expedition into Jove space and subsequent drubbing taught you nothing. Apparently the Matari Rebellion taught you nothing. Apparently the battle to rid the cluster of Kuvakei taught you nothing. We don't want or need your stewardship or any of the other "gifts" you're offering at the barrel of a gun.



When our ships came to your worlds for the first time, you all decided that it will be better live in God's approved slavery than to die.

It is pity that you don't know history of your own people. Are you sure you are minmatar at all? I doubt now.

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