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Black-Ops Battleships, able to fit Covert-Ops Cloak.
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Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2011-09-12 14:09:18 UTC
It makes perfect sense for the black ops ship to have a covert cloak... But that would be OP

It should have additional abilities like:

Communications disruption field – Emits a field around the ship that removes all ships within its range from local. Can only be fitted to Black Ops class ships.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
shadowace00007
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2011-09-12 21:16:22 UTC
I 100% agree with this. for 2 reasons. first is simple fact that when you add a cloak to a ship that ship can not preform as well as normal T2 ships are. Example The Panther Fit one up and you will notice the DPS and EHP are so low in comparison to the Typhoon Its pathetic. and two Is a Black ops ship. Every other ship that can jump threw the Portal can warp cloaked. It should be able to as well.

Born Amarrian Raised Minmatar.
Demon Azrakel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2011-09-12 23:22:08 UTC
I support this product and or service. Black ops, like titans, deserve some time on the front lines. That, and it is not like they **** face compared to a t1 version of themselves...
Einar Matveinen
Mahe Ratu
#24 - 2011-09-13 02:04:54 UTC
Black ops battleships need to be true covert ships. They need to be modified like Stealth bombers and transports were revamped some time ago.
Sigras
Conglomo
#25 - 2011-09-13 04:15:16 UTC
Again, the covert ops cloak would not fix the black ops ship. it would still be a mobile jump bridge with no role. What you need to do is define a role for the black ops ship and then give it bonuses to assist in that role.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#26 - 2011-09-13 04:48:55 UTC
+ 1

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Einar Matveinen
Mahe Ratu
#27 - 2011-09-13 09:13:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Einar Matveinen
They need new roles and bonus, one of them may be the ability of fitting a covert ops cloaking device II.
ThisIsntMyMain
Doomheim
#28 - 2011-09-13 09:52:42 UTC
kerjin wrote:


If you are warping a blackops then you are doing it wrong.


Absolutely true

But only true because they cant warp cloaked. BO are significantly underrated by people who don't fly them much. But speaking as someone who has had a shed load of fun with them yes, they are under powered for the price and especially compared to their T1 BS counterparts. But be careful of buffing them too much or they will become the new SuperCaps
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
#29 - 2011-09-13 13:39:28 UTC
ThisIsntMyMain wrote:
...But only true because they cant warp cloaked....

And only true because of the instant feedback type of scanner we have now.

Imagine if you will if BO's were able to send a false sensor reading to generic scanners (ie. not probes), identifying themselves as a different ship type (same or lower mass within race). Suddenly being able to warp cloaked becomes meaningless as the targets warning bell has been muted .. I bet you that people are more likely to run if they see a hostile in local with nothing on scan than if they merely see lowly T1 ship on scan.

My fix, best fix:
Bring them up to T1 base EHP stats.
Give them a zero m3 maintenance array.
Allow them to use AB while cloaked.
Tyberius Euthipticus
Nabisco Liberation Collective
#30 - 2011-09-13 15:07:18 UTC
I agree with some of this but here's my 2bits.
I agree that BOs need to have the ability to use a cov ops cloak to be as stealthy as the ships it's intended to fly with. That should be part of its roll. To be able to follow along with its counterparts without being a liability to the group. They already have bonuses that allow them to do the rest of what they are designed to do and they can do a token amount of damage. They really aren't supposed to be damage dealers are they?
I do think they should be able to have the equivalent of their recon brethren at least. So maybe remove the weapon bonuses and add in or increase the racial bonuses of the recons, applied to the BOs, based on skill level. That would certainly define their role and make them more useful in groups.
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