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Why Afk is fine in highsec
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Vector Symian
0 Fear
#1 - 2015-01-11 02:18:55 UTC
Hello it may shock you but I am a pretty active pilot and I don't care about going A.F.K (away from keyboard)

The reasons are fairly straightforward ...

- It is high sec, filled with the pilots who may not have the free time available to hold down a activity/isk quota for one of the alliances.
- We are human and I sometimes need to pee...or watch a Game of Thrones episode.
- We pay a subscription this is an allocated amount of time in which we may play as we will, or not if we so choose.
- Those who grind for plex are guilty for simply being tight with their money and will never succeed at the game any way as it requires making decisions, and having fun with friends (and making contacts) is one of the most important strategies of the game.
- A lot of game styles may require days of waiting to be able to do something with out unnecessary loss.
- It has created a whole new style of play, preying on those who happily accept the risk of going afk

on counter point their is no issue with freighter ganking, this is based purely on the massive potential income a ganked freighter may possess

Basically if you can get away with it then by all means

I am wondering is their any reason I may of missed?

please discuss freely

Thankyou for reading
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#2 - 2015-01-11 02:25:33 UTC
Vector Symian wrote:
Hello it may shock you but I am a pretty active pilot and I don't care about going A.F.K (away from keyboard)

The reasons are fairly straightforward ...

- It is high sec, filled with the pilots who may not have the free time available to hold down a activity/isk quota for one of the alliances.
- We are human and I sometimes need to pee...or watch a Game of Thrones episode.
- We pay a subscription this is an allocated amount of time in which we may play as we will, or not if we so choose.
- Those who grind for plex are guilty for simply being tight with their money and will never succeed at the game any way as it requires making decisions, and having fun with friends (and making contacts) is one of the most important strategies of the game.
- A lot of game styles may require days of waiting to be able to do something with out unnecessary loss.
- It has created a whole new style of play, preying on those who happily accept the risk of going afk

on counter point their is no issue with freighter ganking, this is based purely on the massive potential income a ganked freighter may possess

Basically if you can get away with it then by all means

I am wondering is their any reason I may of missed?

please discuss freely

Thankyou for reading
There is no problem with going AFK. There never was.
However, by saying that you think being AFK is no problem, people will probably hunt and kill you just because. Thus it will become a problem, won't it?

You lost my interest at 'People grinding for PLEX being guilty of being tight with money'
At that point I realise there is probably nothing to discuss with you.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#3 - 2015-01-11 02:25:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Vector Symian wrote:
I am wondering is their any reason I may of missed?

Go to miner bumping, there's all manner of excuses there.

Feeding the kids
Doing to laundry
Cooking dinner
...
...
...

All good reasons to help generate content for others.

But I agree with you. If you aren't going to play the game, you may as well not play it logged in. It's really a generous and benevolent act of AFK miners and freighters that they present themselves as targets for others.
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#4 - 2015-01-11 02:28:37 UTC
I'm confused

Is this guy for or against afking ?
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#5 - 2015-01-11 02:31:47 UTC
Hengle Teron wrote:
I'm confused

Is this guy for or against afking ?

I think he's for going AFK and pretending that he doesn't care if it results in him dying occasionally.

Occasionally must have a threshold though. If it becomes more than occasional, this would be a different thread.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#6 - 2015-01-11 02:33:35 UTC
you can afk all you like, its not a terribly good idea in your brand new toy (see navy geddon in sig) but you can do it.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Vector Symian
0 Fear
#7 - 2015-01-11 02:34:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Vector Symian
It is indeed intresting

Ferni - It is probable that the reason people who grind for plex can be varied but I am trying to see this thread from the eyes of those who may disagree ... and that may be their primary motivator

Scipio - I have been on said anti-ganking channel and seen the condensation and oftentimes cruel attack on people who were in fact following the "code" and were still attacked...

if a policy wishes to be set in motion designing it so its enforcers are above reproach garners negative P.R and that weakens the attraction of said policy

It seems the height of propaganda to simply blanket all cases as "excuses"
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#8 - 2015-01-11 02:36:22 UTC
If you want to afk and don't care about the risks, just go afk
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#9 - 2015-01-11 02:41:00 UTC
Vector Symian wrote:
It is indeed intresting

Ferni - It is probable that the reason people who grind for plex can be varied but I am trying to see this thread from the eyes of those who may disagree ... and that may be their primary motivator
Ok, ok. I disagree with you because people grinding for PLEX are playing the game well, and they shouldn't be considered as 'tight with money' because they grind for PLEX. You don't even have to grind for it, depending on how you're doing it.
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2015-01-11 02:42:08 UTC
You are perfectly welcome to go afk anywhere and everywhere. Just be ready to accept the consequences of doing so.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#11 - 2015-01-11 02:42:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Vector Symian wrote:
It seems the height of propaganda to simply blanket all cases as "excuses"

Yeah fair enough.

I'm no propaganda machine for gankers. They don't need my irrelevance to spruiker for them.

It's just words. 'Excuses', 'Reasons', 'Motivations'....all the same thing in the end, just the slightly different view based on who is putting their position across at the time.
Vector Symian
0 Fear
#12 - 2015-01-11 02:50:32 UTC
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:
Vector Symian wrote:
It is indeed intresting

Ferni - It is probable that the reason people who grind for plex can be varied but I am trying to see this thread from the eyes of those who may disagree ... and that may be their primary motivator
Ok, ok. I disagree with you because people grinding for PLEX are playing the game well, and they shouldn't be considered as 'tight with money' because they grind for PLEX. You don't even have to grind for it, depending on how you're doing it.



You raise an excellent point as it is not cheap to do that successfully i will add that consideration to my belief, thankyou
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#13 - 2015-01-11 02:50:47 UTC
Ned Thomas wrote:
You are perfectly welcome to go afk anywhere and everywhere. Just be ready to accept the consequences of doing so.


This.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Vector Symian
0 Fear
#14 - 2015-01-11 03:10:58 UTC
I am always interested in the experiences of our fellow players and heard some issues in the A.G channel in regard to "code compliance" and thought i would clarify that afk is fine...

as long as you accept the risk
Orlacc
#15 - 2015-01-11 03:11:45 UTC
So a thread was needed? Alrighty then....

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-01-11 03:24:38 UTC
Autopilot was, and I repeat, was a good alternative for doing long distance travel in high security. We all know that 20 or more jumps when done manually becomes quite tedious.

However due to the constant gank-a-thon being conducted on supposedly 'AFK' players in high security, doing 20 or more jumps manually is now both mandatory and necessary.

Case in point :

I had a rather large amount of jumps to do in a high security route. I started my journey and activated autopilot. While this series of jumps was being done automatically, I decided to check info material on the in-game browser and have a conversation with others in chat channel.

All of a sudden I see the shield meter on my T3 Cruiser starting to turn red so I activate Shield Booster and Invul Field mods when I notice two T1 Cruisers with Drones out attacking me. I activated my prop mod and tried to orbit one of the attackers but since I forgot to disengage the autopilot all I got was a pop up message saying that command couldn't be done while AP was active, all the while my ship is still quickly accelerating towards the Jumpgate. As I start to disengage the AP, I see Concord spawn and destroy the two attacking Cruisers just as my ship jumps into the next system.

I then tried to go back through the same gate to check their loot drops but once again I get another pop up message saying my command couldn't be done while AP was active. I then disengaged the AP but unfortunately by then my ship was in warp to the next Jumpgate.

After landing at the next Jumpgate, I reversed course back to the gate and made the jump back into the system where I was attacked earlier. Much to my dismay I see an Industrial ship there just getting done collecting up all the loot from the two Cruiser wrecks.

I see the two characters who attacked me flashing red in Local chat so I laughed, linked their names in chat and asked if they were stupid or what for attempting that. Their reply was they were bored and wanted to see if they could do it. I then offered them a chance to try it again but of course the offer was refused.

As I said before - Autopilot was, and I repeat, was a good alternative for doing long distance travel in high security.


DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#17 - 2015-01-11 03:58:48 UTC
Shooting people on autopilot can be fun. Maybe it would be more fun if more went AFK? I'd say it's a good idea!
Vector Symian
0 Fear
#18 - 2015-01-11 04:21:09 UTC
I suppose it would be like...


Oh piece of candy!.. Oh piece of candy!.. Oh piece of ...bulkheads!?...damit Lol
Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-01-11 04:58:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Tisiphone Dira
Why sinning is not fine in highsec:

The wages of sin is death.






Some 'wise' men may tell you to ignore the commandments of the code, to do as you please. Such 'wisdom' comes not from above, but is instead earthly, unspiritual and demonic.

if you need to pee and don't want to dock up, fine! The New Order has a protocol for that, simply ask the Supreme Protector or one of his agents for permission first. Otherwise, don't go afk. The reasons are enumerated in the code. For further reading you could start with the manifesto I and manifesto II.

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy
Vector Symian
0 Fear
#20 - 2015-01-11 05:09:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Vector Symian
Tisiphone Dira wrote:
Why sinning is not fine in highsec:

The wages of sin is death.






Some 'wise' men may tell you to ignore the commandments of the code, to do as you please. Such 'wisdom' comes not from above, but is instead earthly, unspiritual and demonic.

if you need to pee and don't want to dock up, fine! The New Order has a protocol for that, simply ask the Supreme Protector or one of his agents for permission first. Otherwise, don't go afk. The reasons are enumerated in the code. For further reading you could start with the manifesto I and manifesto II.


Oh i apologise i would hate to offend you're demon overlords Oops i was of the belief that demon were spirits as well (if infernal in nature...Twisted)

i am sorry but im too busy playing and peeing to subscribe to a manifesto that does not represent both my rights as a player and protects those who would wish to do me ill

you forget i am Gallente...maybe if you took Amarr space you would have more luck Blink

Fly safe
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