Player Features and Ideas Discussion

buh bye
oh and can i have your stuff now? Or should i wait before asking?

Removing the current jump drives entirely would have had the same effect, without all this fatigue stuff. Instead give all ships the ability to jump to the next solar system. Wouldn't even need stargates which would remove those irritating gate camps. It takes about 1 minute per systen when traversing space, so have some cooldown on the drive before the next jump is possible; 30 seconds sounds about right. The amount of fuel needed based on the mass of the ship, with frigates not needing any jump fuel at all.

As an idea it's no dafter than this new implementation.

Time to bump this topic back up.
CCP we are waiting for sov changes , and yet you still focus on tons of other stuff.
I don't state that those changes are not ~fun~ yet, stuff you have in this topic is what players need and desire.

Jump changes where grate, but as current situation proves - without next steps this don't change much.

Eg.
My point.
Tech 3 destroyers - they are fun! , but at the same time issues like Ishtars , need of bloob to defeat bloob are much more important.

What those tech 3 destroyers change in this issues?
Nothing.
When compared to isthar , tengu and logistic ship swarm in a fleet - they are simply useless.

Some things can be easy to solve.
For example people now keep -0.1 systems because cost of their maintaining is equal to nothing.
Sov cost was not touched for years.
Escalate cost of sov bill so all small groups can claim those -0.1 and state : " We are sov holders, we have space"
If base sov bill for each system will be around 1bil/month many groups will have to reconsider if they really need all this unused space.
Tie this cost to activity system in a system, and -0.1 unused will cost not 1 bil, but 3 ... and this will speedup the process.

Limiting Jump range to 5LY - super, nice move.
Yet we have border connections that allow to travel capital fleet 3-4 regions while just making 1 jump, and rest traveling by gates.
Those gates should not allow any capital movement.

JF range still not 5LY , and at the same time CCP have to solve issues for big NPC null space like Venal or Stain - they really need lowsec gate connection.
Many new groups where forged there , and they need a way to move pilots, and basic supplies there.
This is to big and important space for new and small groups to leave it without any normal supply lines.

Fixing motherships ... i know that those ships where nerfed few times already, but they cannot be used as a logistic ship for rest of the fleet.
Currently they are I WIN button in this role.
Why. Because we have logistic ship that have :
1. Mufti million EHP
2. immunity to EWAR
3. 3-6k dps from fighters
4. jump drive
5. ability to reship fleet on field.

Total nonsense, take 10 motherships in your BS fleet and you have :
Up to 60k extra DPS that will be able to take out enemy logistic ships, or any other ships
25.000.000 m3 of ship hangar space ... so you have 50 battleships to reship, or tons of other stuff - like dictors, ceptors, etc.
Over 20 capital reps on field
10 remote ECM Bursts


CCP IMPORTANT STUFF PLEASE....

you dont use traige carriers then?

you realise that that DPS wont be applied to subs unless the supers fit drone mods.. no tank, if a fleet commits 10 supers then that should increase their effectiveness, otherwise whats the point might as well use traige carriers... which is normally the case as it is..

You are aware that motherships can refit on each other , and changing from a dps fit to tank fit takes 10-15s?
They use normal modules so they can have tons of those in their bays.

Why use triage carriers - they cannot receive remote reps and are easy to kill.
Remember that whole concept of slowcat doctrine excludes triage module.


No fee for owning a ship.
It is not about all regional gates, just those on the edges of the universe.
CCP have to rethink current regional connections, important eve mechanic changed and those connections, their number, destination also have to be rethink.

Sorry but any logistic ship immune to EWAR is totally broken idea.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=391015

Next step in the path to fixing sov: multiple content nodes spread over different grids and objectives that are achievable by smaller gangs that have a tangible effect on sovereignty.

It is not about creating some NPC entity to solve player issues.
Mechanic is simply broken , and totally not adequate to current of eve universe.

Every thing is promoting BLOB, simply in order to do something you need BLOB to back you up.

Lets look at 2 base nullsec income sources :

A. Sov
EHP also is an issue, but mostly timers - almost week to take system that have station, and you have to win ALL timers.
TRANSLATION OF THE MECHANIC :
1.you have to reinforce all stuff whole week
2. on strange hours
3. no one will ever come to defend a timer
4. enemy just show up on the final one , will always bring enough peoples to block your action , and resets the whole process to point 1

B. Towers
You don't have to live in some area to control towers, what you need is :
- tons of shield hardeners
- alt / ceptor alt that will arrive or sit on this tower
- Out of game IT infrastructure that will ping every one as hell that someone is shooting this tower , just to login your alt and restront this tower to proper timer.

Then just bring enough people to defend this pos.

You could say that this is ok , i agree , but not when point A is also broken. THis blocks small and new groups from obtaining proper income ... to become something more than "small" group without having 15k blue.



CCP made good move with making 5 LY and fatigue , as this solved some of the issues.
But this still not solved base issue - that blob can keep any system without need of maintaining this system.
Sov bill for keeping such system is so small that simply no one even notice it.

I will have to respectfully disagree. In order to make "occupancy" based sov work, you need to have a driver for people to spread out and occupy space. Having an NPC entity or "Nodes" or "sites" is the only way to accomplish this. In order for the rest of the changes to have something to build on, you first must absolutely remove the "lets all live in this one system" mentality.

The only way to force that type of change is through some NPC mechanic. Otherwise nothing will change and people will still live solely in one system, and then fleet up when, and only when there is a threat by another PC group, just as it is now.

Sov now CCP.
Please