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Request: Ship Insurance Rates CREST endpoint

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Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-11-08 16:18:21 UTC
Something that would be very nice to have would be the ability to pull data about how much it costs to insure a ship, and how much a given level of insurance pays out for a ship. Right now, attempting to compensate for insurance when planning ship replacement programs is a manual process with an indeterminate expiration date, due to the fact that insurance rates are adjusted over an unknown time period, the formula for determining insurance rates and payouts is unknown, and the fact that the values are cached internally.

Or, in other words, it's a perfect thing to expose via CREST.

I was thinking of something like the following:
{
    "lastUpdated": "1970-01-01 00:00:01",
    "insuranceRates": [
        {
            "typeID": 12345,
            "typeName": "Avatar",
            "rates": {
                "basic": {
                    "cost": 12,
                    "payout": 23,
                },
                "standard": {
                    "cost": 12,
                    "payout": 23,
                },
                "bronze": {
                    "cost": 12,
                    "payout": 23,
                },
                "silver": {
                    "cost": 12,
                    "payout": 23,
                },
                "gold": {
                    "cost": 12,
                    "payout": 23,
                },
                "platinum": {
                    "cost": 12,
                    "payout": 23,
                }
            }
        },
        ...
    ]
}


Thoughts?

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Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-11-08 16:19:37 UTC
Querns wrote:
Something that would be very nice to have would be the ability to pull data about how much it costs to insure a ship, and how much a given level of insurance pays out for a ship. Right now, attempting to compensate for insurance when planning ship replacement programs is a manual process with an indeterminate expiration date, due to the fact that insurance rates are adjusted over an unknown time period, the formula for determining insurance rates and payouts is unknown, and the fact that the values are cached internally.

Or, in other words, it's a perfect thing to expose via CREST.

I was thinking of something like the following:
{
    "lastUpdated": "1970-01-01 00:00:01",
    "insuranceRates": [
        {
            "typeID": 12345,
            "typeName": "Avatar",
            "rates": {
                "basic": {
                    "cost": 12,
                    "payout": 23,
                },
                "standard": {
                    "cost": 12,
                    "payout": 23,
                },
                "bronze": {
                    "cost": 12,
                    "payout": 23,
                },
                "silver": {
                    "cost": 12,
                    "payout": 23,
                },
                "gold": {
                    "cost": 12,
                    "payout": 23,
                },
                "platinum": {
                    "cost": 12,
                    "payout": 23,
                }
            }
        },
        ...
    ]
}


Thoughts?


Seconding this. Except for the unknown time period part, we do know that.

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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#3 - 2014-11-09 13:16:22 UTC
I cannot really see anything wrong with exposing that... will look into it later this week.

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Amely Miles
Second Exile
#4 - 2014-11-09 15:25:54 UTC
i'm currently determining insurance payout as jita max buy and then throwing a little wizardry in to the mix ....i have to say i agree for the second time in my Eve career with a goonie

my spreadsheet would love you long time if this gets implemented and would make my insurance payouts alot easier to do with precise calculations.

i will point my spreadsheet guru to this thread in the hopes you get this going.

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I took my finger back out and within seconds she was going down on me.

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Nolen Cadmar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-11-09 17:30:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Nolen Cadmar
+1. Great idea. I'm all for adding more stuff that can be utilized in OOG tools/spreadsheets!

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Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-12-01 21:36:25 UTC
Gonna bump this thread again; get it back into folks' minds. Obviously, folks are busy, especially with the holidays coming up, but I figured there was no harm in reiterating an idea for later on down the line.

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Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-12-03 14:20:50 UTC
This is an excellent idea. I am all for anything that eases the workload of the poor guys who volunteer to throw money at me for being bad at Eve.
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#8 - 2014-12-03 14:24:44 UTC
Yea, I will look into it in the new year. :)

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Hawkson
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-12-03 14:57:08 UTC
Great initiative!

I would like to see this happen as well, especially concerning the recent "unintended" fluctuations on Tech 2 insurance.

This might not be the most popular endpoint but it would free many corporations and alliances from manually collecting this data and allow them to fully automate their ship replacement programs.
Paxswill
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-01-09 22:55:04 UTC
Any progress on this? I'd really like to have some way to integrate this into our/our allies' reimbursement/SRP apps.
Amely Miles
Second Exile
#11 - 2015-01-09 23:04:41 UTC
pretty please with bananas on top

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I took my finger back out and within seconds she was going down on me.

"I really need a new boat," I thought to myself.
Aglea
Trust Savings
#12 - 2015-02-25 20:26:00 UTC
@CCP Foxfour: I have naughty pictures of you in Vegas, release this or we release the pictures!

In all seriousness.... spaceship seriousness.... are you guys going to do this? If so when?
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#13 - 2015-02-26 11:22:16 UTC
Aglea wrote:
@CCP Foxfour: I have naughty pictures of you in Vegas, release this or we release the pictures!

In all seriousness.... spaceship seriousness.... are you guys going to do this? If so when?


I really want to and will hopefully get to it after FanFest. It's been an interesting year so far. :)

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