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Hisec Ganking is Really Fun- and Easy ~my (long) story~

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Mr Omniblivion
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2015-01-09 06:54:02 UTC
If it's going to get locked, I can just remove the links once an ISD chimes in. They're just in there for flavour Smile
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#22 - 2015-01-09 07:54:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Pok Nibin
There's something about a Goonwaffle posting something like this that makes it go over like a lead balloon.
Does the term "strains credulity" leap to mind? Anyone? Roll

EDIT: Mettere a dura prova buona fede, essere al limite del credibile.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.

Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2015-01-09 08:10:48 UTC
Can someone explain why asteroid belts still exist and why barges/exhumers are still able to be produced? Seems if they were removed and minerals were seeded, you could actually have a game where you don't shoot stupid worthless targets that never should of existed in the first place because the vessels are so damn stupid (the pod should blow up with the ship and they should lose SP, like a T3 to save you ammo). No, never had mining vessel if mine ganked as I quickly realized how fcking boring it was, just seems if asteroids where removed, minerals seeded, the vessels and their SP not refunded back by CCP, you would actually have a more interesting game instead of paper target bragging (I r awsume! where you sound like you have mental impediments) or training to be a clay pigeon / that goat tied like in the move Jurassic Park shortly before its eaten (still cannot figure out Why would any want to be a miner? Go play minesweeper or solitaire FFS, more distracting than CCP's poor mini game of sitting in belts doing nothing).

tl;dr aspect is just get rid of asteroids in general, game is far more interesting when you watch actual fights that is not some fat dude who saying how good they are at doing the easiest thing in game, like listening to someone say they are great at level 4 mission bashing Roll
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#24 - 2015-01-09 08:22:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Mr Omniblivion wrote:
If it's going to get locked, I can just remove the links once an ISD chimes in. They're just in there for flavour Smile

More likely they remove it themselves, or

they remove it and lock the thread anyway. It's a lottery, like a loot drop from a ganked exhumer.

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Sequester Risalo
German Corps of Engineers 17
Federation of Respect Honor Passion Alliance.
#25 - 2015-01-09 08:28:36 UTC
Aqriue wrote:
Can someone explain why asteroid belts still exist and why barges/exhumers are still able to be produced? Seems if they were removed and minerals were seeded, you could actually have a game where you don't shoot stupid worthless targets that never should of existed in the first place because the vessels are so damn stupid (the pod should blow up with the ship and they should lose SP, like a T3 to save you ammo). No, never had mining vessel if mine ganked as I quickly realized how fcking boring it was, just seems if asteroids where removed, minerals seeded, the vessels and their SP not refunded back by CCP, you would actually have a more interesting game instead of paper target bragging (I r awsume! where you sound like you have mental impediments) or training to be a clay pigeon / that goat tied like in the move Jurassic Park shortly before its eaten (still cannot figure out Why would any want to be a miner? Go play minesweeper or solitaire FFS, more distracting than CCP's poor mini game of sitting in belts doing nothing).

tl;dr aspect is just get rid of asteroids in general, game is far more interesting when you watch actual fights that is not some fat dude who saying how good they are at doing the easiest thing in game, like listening to someone say they are great at level 4 mission bashing Roll


And while they are at it they should close down all systems except Thera so your playstyle is the only one available. Subscription numbers are for sissies anyway.
ISD Supogo
ISD BH
ISD Alliance
#26 - 2015-01-09 08:31:01 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD BH Supogo
Edited out links to killmails, no reason to lock the whole thread over something as simple as that.

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Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#27 - 2015-01-09 12:02:50 UTC
It's really easy when you use a scout and never undock unless you strike.

When you like playing like a carebear, that's the way to go.

It's also mindlessly boring.

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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#28 - 2015-01-09 14:01:29 UTC
Aqriue wrote:
Can someone explain why asteroid belts still exist and why barges/exhumers are still able to be produced?
Because getting rid of content for multiple segments of the playerbase while simultaneously taking a section of the player-driven economy away from the players just because you don't like it when people post on forums is a terrible idea?

Sol Project wrote:
It's really easy when you use a scout and never undock unless you strike.
Yes, the true challenge of EVE is dodging the super-effective faction police.

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Mister Holder
Faceless Men
#29 - 2015-01-09 15:18:02 UTC
Thanks for the warning in the first sentence. Stopped there.
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#30 - 2015-01-09 15:19:28 UTC
I agree with you OP. Ganking is fun, and more people should try it!
Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#31 - 2015-01-09 15:21:52 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Aqriue wrote:
Can someone explain why asteroid belts still exist and why barges/exhumers are still able to be produced?
Because getting rid of content for multiple segments of the playerbase while simultaneously taking a section of the player-driven economy away from the players just because you don't like it when people post on forums is a terrible idea?

Sol Project wrote:
It's really easy when you use a scout and never undock unless you strike.
Yes, the true challenge of EVE is dodging the super-effective faction police.

Blablablabla GrumpyCorn.

Considering how all the gankers behave ...
... the faction police comes across as unbeatable. ^_^

Soooo grumpy ... ^_^

:)

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Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!

Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!

Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#32 - 2015-01-10 00:20:09 UTC
You sir, are a TERRIBLE person!

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AFK Cloaker #67!


You should be ashamed of yourself.


Steppa Musana
Doomheim
#33 - 2015-01-10 00:23:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Steppa Musana
Crumplecorn wrote:
Mr Omniblivion wrote:
Rather than rub it in or whatever normal gankers do
Mr Omniblivion wrote:
I actually gave him a pat on the back, apologized that he was the first random kill of the day, and give him a nice "welcome back to eve :)". I even gave him some recommendations on how to fit it better and even that he could make more isk/hour running missions or doing basically anything else than what he was doing in a much cheaper ship. He was thankful and went on his way. Damn, I'm such a nice guy.
This is what normal gankers do. It's the miners who are the assholes (typically).

This is what normal gankers do, in some dream you had maybe. Back here in reality, this is close to the opposite of what normal gankers do.
Cancel Align NOW
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2015-01-10 00:26:21 UTC
Sol Project wrote:
It's really easy when you use a scout and never undock unless you strike.

When you like playing like a carebear, that's the way to go.

It's also mindlessly boring.


If the same 3 pilots are also a platoon in world of tanks it is actually great fun.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#35 - 2015-01-10 00:28:31 UTC
Steppa Musana wrote:
This is what normal gankers do, in some dream you had maybe. Back here in reality, this is close to the opposite of what normal gankers do.
That dream I had is called playing EVE. You should try it some time.

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Solops Crendraven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2015-01-10 01:39:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Solops Crendraven
Mr Omniblivion wrote:
This turned into a long story, my posting sucks, you probably shouldn't read it.

Having a space job and managing thousands of reactor farms isn't the most fun thing to do in Eve. The POS mechanics and management system are god awful and tedious to manage, and really make the game less fun.

In my state of pure boredom and tired of talking about fixing null ore anomalies, I was reminded by an associate that I could always day trip down to empire and dabble with some highsec gankery. Being that I have had a 5.0 sec status for years now, I figured that I'd give it a shot.

It took us about an hour to get set up- moving from Deklein to high sec was pretty quick with instaceptors, and then using our own freighter alts to haul in enough fit t2 catalysts for us to play with for as long as we'd ever want to. Other than having fit ships, my associate and I had no idea what to expect, nor the extent of ships that we could successfully take out.

We first arrived at a mackinaw shooting some rocks in a random belt- I know that mackinaws can get pretty tanky, but we decided to give it a shot anyways. A mere 5 seconds later, the mackinaw was vaporized sporting a pretty unique fit.

Awesome! Nothing like our first successful highsec gank. Being that I'm not totally an ******* most of the time, I convoed the guy and inquired about his interesting choice in mods (or lack thereof). He told me that he had just resubbed and was rather upset that his ship was blown up. Rather than rub it in or whatever normal gankers do, I actually gave him a pat on the back, apologized that he was the first random kill of the day, and give him a nice "welcome back to eve :)". I even gave him some recommendations on how to fit it better and even that he could make more isk/hour running missions or doing basically anything else than what he was doing in a much cheaper ship. He was thankful and went on his way. Damn, I'm such a nice guy.

Rather than just reship and gank the same system again, we decided to head back to home base and scout out some fresh targets. Using one of my several hundred afk cloaking alts, I found a mackinaw mining away at a belt in a nearby system. This guy was much more clever than the last one. He had concord already spawned at the belt, as well as his own scorpion alt next to him. Because I'm generally awful at Eve, I accidentally got too close on my cloaked alt and decloaked. The miner didn't budge; knowing that if I touched him, I would be instantly concordokkened. I don't like being smugged on, so I decided to go ahead and scan him to see what I was going up against. An okay tank, nothing major. I don't know if being scanned happens frequently in highsec, but that would be an instant red flag to me. This miner, accompanied by his alt in a scorpion and concord, fearlessly chipped away at the asteroids around him.

All of a sudden, concord started to align and warp away. As they did, two freshly minted catalysts emerged from the nether and simultaneously engaged the once smug miner. Melting within seconds, the mackinaw exploded (with pretty neat graphics, I might say- one of the few times I've ever turned graphics on high), spewing the pod and its contents all over the belt. Just as I locked up the pod, the scorpion finally locked me. And then I was dead; Concord had come back whence they departed earlier.

As we were warping back to reship, we continued scouting for our next targets. Hulk, Hulk, Mackinaw, Mackinaw, Skiff, Orca, all in the same belt. In retrospect, I should have batphoned some more friends to come help, but I only have one friend and he was already with me.

Just us two, we quickly waited down our timers and reshipped, staying down wind of the unsuspecting miners. AFK Cloaker #67 was already at the belt, waiting for us, 5km off of the group of miners. My friend and I quickly talked about the order of events and which target to hit. Concord was called to a POCO for some reason just as two catalysts landed on grid with the exhumers. Being outnumbered and overgunned, we quickly locked up targets and engaged. Oops, I shot the wrong guy, I'm pretty awful. Luckily, my not awful friend realized I was shooting the wrong target and quickly switched over to help me. Hulk down. Mission Accomplished Cool.

For a few tens of million ISK, I had an absolute blast. There is nothing quite like hunting out unsuspecting prey and the subsequent bloodlust after your first kill. I, too, have miners of my own- yet I did not hesitate one second going out and suicide ganking in unknown space. I urge everyone to try it at least one time, as I just did last night. All you need is a catalyst, t2 blasters, some damage rigs, and full damage mods in the lows. I'm bad so I don't know what they are all called. Go find an unsuspecting Hulk or Mackinaw and become one with the catalyst. I recommend sending them an apology message after the fact for being the random victim of the day, and give them a salutary "welcome to eve".

Bottom line- try something new, have a lot of fun. Suicide ganking is a great and cheap place to start.

tl;dr: go try a suicide gank one time if you've never done it before- you won't regret it- as long as you kill something, hah!
That gave me a Great Idea Ill get my Freighters of Thousands of fitted procurers and ECM drones for you to sucide gank and target now that would be fun.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#37 - 2015-01-10 02:01:13 UTC
Mr Omniblivion wrote:

All of a sudden, concord started to align and warp away. As they did, two freshly minted catalysts emerged from the nether and simultaneously engaged the once smug miner. Melting within seconds, the mackinaw exploded (with pretty neat graphics, I might say- one of the few times I've ever turned graphics on high), spewing the pod and its contents all over the belt. Just as I locked up the pod, the scorpion finally locked me. And then I was dead; Concord had come back whence they departed earlier.

...

Concord was called to a POCO for some reason just as two catalysts landed on grid with the exhumers. Being outnumbered and overgunned, we quickly locked up targets and engaged. Oops, I shot the wrong guy, I'm pretty awful. Luckily, my not awful friend realized I was shooting the wrong target and quickly switched over to help me. Hulk down. Mission Accomplished Cool.


I am Ok with you creating content and applying Darwin law in EvE.

But, with all the thousands guys out there, you just HAD to exploit and corral Concord away, despite it's not OK for CCP?

Because I see you try and switch to a general "third person" but it's clear it's your (and / or your friend's) alts who corral Concord away, you even give it away (twice) when you say what you have done to a ship.

So, +1 for doing something active and fun, but -3 for cheating (does not matter the miners did too).
Paranoid Loyd
#38 - 2015-01-10 02:05:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:

I am Ok with you creating content and applying Darwin law in EvE.

But, with all the thousands guys out there, you just HAD to exploit and corral Concord away, despite it's not OK for CCP?

Because I see you try and switch to a general "third person" but it's clear it's your (and / or your friend's) alts who corral Concord away, you even give it away (twice) when you say what you have done to a ship.

So, +1 for doing something active and fun, but -3 for cheating (does not matter the miners did too).
Ugh
Educate yourself

I wouldn't disagree with you but concord stays on grid until down time, so there needs to be a way to move them.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#39 - 2015-01-10 02:06:05 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:

they remove it and lock the thread anyway. It's a lottery, like a loot drop from a ganked exhumer.


I still recall the good times when they always dropped those T2 salvage that in the majority of times would more than cover the gank costs.

And the deadspace small shields, straight out of that famous miner PDF guide! Those were the times!
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#40 - 2015-01-10 02:17:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:

I am Ok with you creating content and applying Darwin law in EvE.

But, with all the thousands guys out there, you just HAD to exploit and corral Concord away, despite it's not OK for CCP?

Because I see you try and switch to a general "third person" but it's clear it's your (and / or your friend's) alts who corral Concord away, you even give it away (twice) when you say what you have done to a ship.

So, +1 for doing something active and fun, but -3 for cheating (does not matter the miners did too).
Ugh
Educate yourself

I wouldn't disagree with you but concord stays on grid until down time, so there needs to be a way to move them.


1) Just because "the law" does not ban you, does not mean you are not cheating (or are a poor sport anyway).
You can cheat your wife all life long and, even if discovered, you won't see the evil CCP man come to your house and put you to jail. However you still cheated.

2) If you feel so straight why did you put the sentences in third persons and used allusions? Blink

3) I have seen, lived, done and been all the oddest roles about miners ganking I could write a book. But in that book I could not write "Concord stays on grid until down time" because while technically correct, it never happens in any vaguely populated system.
In order to get that situation you really need to dig HARD and go so in some deep region in the middle of nowhere where you find that lone dude and then you have to waste half hour to hop around to find the next.
On the contrary, you seem to have the natural (and popular) attraction to juicy belts with stuff to pop without getting old and this involves active systems, where Concord is not going to stay up there for that long.
In case of doubt you could just play and pop miners at another belt (if it's not ice / lone belt) so Concord goes there. Next, you have a Concord free belt in the first location. And here you go, a shiny sport record!