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Thanny can do Garrison/Stronghold solo, so if you do a site solo, and then cap up, and warp in archon at 0 or at range w/e you want it's the same thing ISK wise, it just takes more time. Talking about 2 carriers at the same time, I haven't tried it but, you should use some RR between them for sure, not sure if you are planning just to triage one of them, and other one does the dps and keeps the aggro with ECM.
Anyways solo thanny + 2nd carrier at range spawning new sleepers is still more simple then that if you really can't use a solo dread + carrier at range.

Yes, with cap/reps in the highs and a decent tank, you could clearly do escalations like that. You could do a standard slowcat setup of sorts and they'd tank fine probably even with T2 fittings. They wouldn't take down the sleepers as quickly as a well placed dread, but they wouldn't have a siege timer either, so...

with second escalation spawn at the same place as the first one? I did not do solo dread cuz Im afraid if rats run out of range.

No it's not.

A single carrier can tank a single wave of guardians, 6 or 8, but never two waves without triage. Even with triage the neuting is horrendous, not entirely certain you'd survive long enough to be bailed out.

You can warp 1 in, preferably a thanatos, clear the first wave except trigger, clear the guardians (have cap refit, they neut 216gj/s which hurts), cap up when the last guardian dies and warp another in to spawn another wave, sure. Can even warp them on grid and have 2x carriers with fighters/drones to speed it up, if you like.


You can warp another 3 capitals in, 1 at a time, clearing the guardians before the next warp. It'll be slow, but you'll also make 2b isk per site, over 4 days... so...

I've done a Archon / Moros / Loki escalation by myself. The Archon boosts armor, the Loki boosts webs. It is scary. The Archon can permanently tank the 6/6 waves. With better skills and better modules I think you could perma tank 6/8, but you will want to try the test server to see what I mean by better skills / fit. Check out Miton's escalation guide for the Archon fit. You will want 2 named local reppers.

I'd go Archon then Thanny, and you will need to be on the ball switching the archon reps / remote reps so you don't waste cap.

I understand why you might want to do this. Losing 2 fully insured carriers wouldn't be like losing the Archon / Moros / Loki, and if you only have 2 accounts...

My guess is that you'll want sentries. The agro is all over the place and I'd bet they will wipe the fighters out. Pull sentries if they get hit, and then throw them back out. You might still lose some but oh well. Optimal is 35km to 40km. You will be surprised how long it takes.

With the traffic in w-space these days though, you'll want to do it during off hours.

The average applied dps on a sleepless guardian from say an archon with max skill, no drone mods and a full 10 sentries is in the region of 380dps so you'd be there for like an hour and a half.

Fighter survivability is a bit luck of the draw, some days they'll get eaten other days they are almost entirely ignored :S (depends a bit on what smaller sleepers are in site as they are a closer match for their preferred target by sig radius). With a single sensor booster on the carrier though you can usually lock and rep your fighters but its a very hands on intensive and now and again some will get alpha'd.

i would suggest a dread and carrier, you can do 2waves in 1 siege cycle and it will take so much less time and be so much more profitable.

the dread needs somewhat high skills for it to work like t2 siege and so on

oh interesting method, i can do 4 boxes just fine but triple can really save a lot pain. I think web boosting sub does not affect tank or slots on loki?

I think the inference was the loki runs the skirmish link for web range which means using the warfare sub-system over the armour bonused defence sub-system.

so the moros is armor tank?