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Asteroids in hidden clusters
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Kraso
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-12-18 16:53:52 UTC
Strength and honour,

i was very surprised about new amounts of asteroids in hidden clusters. For example "big spodumain" is now in small cluster and moderate cluster too (before only in small cluster). Or in large cluster are now 2 asteroids of arkonor (30k and 35k - before only 35k) and 2 asteroids of bistot (100k and 50k - before only 50k).

Do you know please, if exist some updated document about amount of asteroids in each cluster after Crucible? (Something like Bloodtear for example.)

Thank you very much for your answers.
Jita Bloodtear
Bloodtear Labs
#2 - 2011-12-18 22:47:25 UTC
I don't think anything has changed really. Obviously pricing has changed with the new mining rates (T2 boosting mods), and variable mineral values.

Per Hour
Arkonor 64,548,177
Bistot 44,543,801
Crokite 31,501,271
Dark Ochre 25,501,520
Gneiss 15,287,635
Hedbergite 30,238,017
Hemorphite 30,832,386
Jaspet 30,417,237
Kernite 26,127,657
Mercoxit 34,031,929
Omber 13,141,002
Plagioclase 27,734,851
Pyroxeres 28,013,080
Scordite 18,934,341
Spodumain 19,782,253
Veldspar 19,282,638

I'll try to scan fresh versions of these belts and see if anything has changed
Kraso
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-12-19 00:42:06 UTC
So maybe some bug in game, because this is really my new large cluster... (almost new, because i mine now 32 815 amount of arkonor from the first asteroid).

http://kraso.ic.cz/games/large_cluster.png
Jita Bloodtear
Bloodtear Labs
#4 - 2011-12-19 01:02:40 UTC
I've just scanned 4 untouched belts, small, med, large, xlarge, and they have changed significantly since the report. They've added a lot more high-end ores to them.

Small belt:
Bistot: 20k -> 30k (HUGE)
Hedbergite: 86k -> 103k
Hemorphite: 83k -> 104k
Kernite: 254k -> 295k
Plagioclase: 208k -> 230k
Pyroxeres: 210k -> 250k
Veldspar: 406k -> 438k

Medium belt:
Arkonor: 30k -> 25k
Crokite: 20k -> 70k (HUGE)
Plagioclase: 840k -> 925k
Spodumain: 40k -> 190k (HUGE)
Veldspar: 1,260k -> 865k

Large belt:
Arkonor: 35k -> 65k (HUGE)
Bistot: 50k -> 150k (UNBELIEVABLY HUGE)

X-Large belt:
Bistot: 60k -> 160k (UNBELIEVABLY HUGE)
Crokite: 60k -> 210k (UNBELIEVABLY HUGE)
Jaspet: 420k -> 470k
Mercoxit: 15k -> 45k (UNBELIEVABLY HUGE)
Omber: 560k -> 500k
Pyroxeres: 765k -> 805k
Veldspar: 930.5k -> 840.5k
Kraso
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-12-19 01:08:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Kraso
Yes, this is exactly my point. Thank you very much for your report.
Jita Bloodtear
Bloodtear Labs
#6 - 2011-12-19 01:57:49 UTC
It's entirely possible that there are other stealth changes to the system as well. Such as linking the ore amounts to the sec status of the system. My data is from a -0.1 sec status system. So if that's the case... god knows what a -1.0 system would have.

I would also assume that since the buffs got larger as the belts got larger, that the giant belt is insanely buffed. I wonder if they buffed WH grav sites, or nerfed them.
Kraso
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-12-19 02:17:37 UTC
I checked these data with our system (-0.5) in small, moderate and large cluster (don't have level 4 for extra large now) and they look same.

And in my honestly opinion these new data are so op, that maybe ccp nerf them in near future. For this moment i wanted only check, if i have only these new data or it is everywhere in universe.
Jita Bloodtear
Bloodtear Labs
#8 - 2011-12-19 02:42:21 UTC
Ya I'm going to assume it's the same everywhere in the game (because that's how it had been), and because you're reporting the same stats from the opposite side of the galaxy. Zydrine and megacyte are already too cheap on the markets, last thing we need is more of them. Coupled with the T2 mining links we're mining even faster than ever. Which by the time everything rebalances out pricewise, we'll be left doing more work/hauling/compression for the same pay as we had been.