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DON PhilKill
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-01-07 12:26:38 UTC
Hey CCP,
are there any plans for an official ios/Android app?
Like Neocom(ios) Aura & Evanova(Android)

An official app would be perfect;)

Thanks in advance
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#2 - 2015-01-07 13:49:31 UTC
And what do you think an official app could do better than the third party apps already available?

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Ix Method
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-01-07 16:19:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Ix Method
Rivr Luzade wrote:
And what do you think an official app could do better than the third party apps already available?

Working without crashing would be a start. Updating market stuff reliably maybe, although that's possibly crazy talk. Corp stuff? Integration with eve gate? Evemon? Using the new sign on thing?

Maybe it could let us slap people who pointlessly smug their way through F&I just because they're bored?

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#4 - 2015-01-07 17:12:31 UTC
Ix Method wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
And what do you think an official app could do better than the third party apps already available?

Working without crashing would be a start. Updating market stuff reliably maybe, although that's possibly crazy talk. Corp stuff? Integration with eve gate? Evemon? Using the new sign on thing?

Maybe it could let us slap people who pointlessly smug their way through F&I just because they're bored?

These are all things which CCP maybe eventually wants to make available to developers. Third Parties can already use the SSO for their software, whether it is possible to integrate with Android/iOS apps is another story.

With regards to the "not crashing": ROFL.

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Alruan Shadowborn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-01-08 00:18:54 UTC
I'm with Rivr

There are plenty of 3rd party things that work great, we have a community that expands our capabilities, don't alienate it by going down the official path.

Like with the game, where CCP recognise they do something with one intent, and the players find outher ways to do it, so is the way with Apps.

CCP give access to things, and players find nefarious and helpfule ways to use it.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#6 - 2015-01-08 03:17:06 UTC
Ix Method wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
And what do you think an official app could do better than the third party apps already available?

Working without crashing would be a start.



Which ccp are we talking about? The ccp i know could not be assed to pul down yosemite in development beta to maybe avoid the headaches they are generating of late with mac os issues.

CBA to pull down even late beta OS to test....probably cba to pull down Xcode. or learn obj c and/or now swift. Xcode has a nice iOS software emulator to test before you kill a real device with crappy code. objective c and now swift are apple's supported languages for development on iOS (or mac os).
Amarisen Gream
The.Kin.of.Jupiter
#7 - 2015-01-08 04:46:21 UTC
Zan Shiro wrote:
Ix Method wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
And what do you think an official app could do better than the third party apps already available?

Working without crashing would be a start.



Which ccp are we talking about? The ccp i know could not be assed to pul down yosemite in development beta to maybe avoid the headaches they are generating of late with mac os issues.

CBA to pull down even late beta OS to test....probably cba to pull down Xcode. or learn obj c and/or now swift. Xcode has a nice iOS software emulator to test before you kill a real device with crappy code. objective c and now swift are apple's supported languages for development on iOS (or mac os).





So funny: don't worry I am a Mac user and have 10.10 on my 2012 iMac. I have seen no problems with the current build of EVE. Generally I log on everyday. Can't remember any crashes.
Plus I started the 10.10 in The Mac forums.
Yeah I would love it if CCP would bring official support.
For me though, I maintain updated versions of Macports and Wine on my personal machine. If those help in any way I don't know. But something somewhere on my computer seems to keep me from crashing while other people crash.


Back to the OP- no need for CCP to have official app; just better information about apps out there.

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Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2015-01-08 16:01:08 UTC
Hasn't this topic been up already a couple of times?
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#9 - 2015-01-08 23:02:28 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
Hasn't this topic been up already a couple of times?



Lots of times.


Crest gives hopes of massive changes. What they miss ccp is giving the less than subtle hint this will be in 3rd party's hands to use the framework offered to change the world as it where.


They also miss the fact proper smart development is a fullttime endeavor. Probably why crest is getting its backing. The future 3rd party devs of the world can deal with internal changes to smart devices technologies and development frameworks. Looking at apple alone with swift sill new we can expect some changes overtime as even old dog languages changed in the early years, and still change later on. Even objective c will get its changes I imagine, if only bug fixes that may deprecate things over time.


Same with frameworks for android, etc.
Mazzara
Band of the Red Sun
#10 - 2015-01-09 16:34:56 UTC
They should just do it, the 3rd party apps are OK, I donno tho if they are worth the time to set them up to kinda work.
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Sam Spock
The Arnold Connection
#11 - 2015-01-09 16:43:17 UTC
An app that would let you log in to a station docked character and do what you can do docked right now. Probably not a supper good idea as it would probably melt jita as station trading explodes as people market pvp while driving.

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Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-01-10 01:53:39 UTC
Sam Spock wrote:
An app that would let you log in to a station docked character and do what you can do docked right now. Probably not a supper good idea as it would probably melt jita as station trading explodes as people market pvp while driving.



would have a disparity between iOS and non iOS apps. Since a direct log into to game of sorts, it be like the puter client. You aren't getting in until a client patch if available is applied.


So CCP changes this portable application for bug fixing, improvements or security issues.. iOS users won;t see it for days to over week after as it must clear apple's internal submission checks.

Basically you get a whole bunch of unfun scenarios as ccp loses the ability to control this app waiting for apple to clear the submission. I deal with this real world now. Our CEO likes an app for mail access. Being an exchange admin this became something I had to care about lol. It had a bug in one release. He found it fast. Since its the CEO....its ofc a 5 alarm fire. Write the company and say HELP!, get my ceo off my ass basically. Used more technical and business language ofc. Answer I got was we know of the bug, fix is submitted to apple store....please be patient.

So until that patch released it was the daily is it out yet grilling. CCP probably doesn't want to be in this spot. Can;t blame them. They'd be getting shot as the messenger telling us fix submitted, spam apple's site to have patch cleared faster as we can't do a damn thing once submitted lol.

Now an android user might be goi g whats that go to do with me? I'd gather ccp would keep the ole latest client version logs in only they have with the game client. If a bug affects android and/or iOS, we all keep that bug until all clients can login with same software rev with the fix.
u3pog
Ministerstvo na otbranata
Ore No More
#13 - 2015-01-25 12:19:12 UTC
Can you use the current 3rd party software to update market orders? If not, then it would be nice if CCP creates such an app, so you may trade anywhere.
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-01-25 13:45:26 UTC
u3pog wrote:
Can you use the current 3rd party software to update market orders? If not, then it would be nice if CCP creates such an app, so you may trade anywhere.


No.
Iain Cariaba
#15 - 2015-01-25 19:36:58 UTC
u3pog wrote:
Can you use the current 3rd party software to update market orders? If not, then it would be nice if CCP creates such an app, so you may trade anywhere.

If you want to maintain your .01 isk advantage on the market, log in to do it.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#16 - 2015-01-25 20:24:46 UTC
u3pog wrote:
Can you use the current 3rd party software to update market orders? If not, then it would be nice if CCP creates such an app, so you may trade anywhere.


pretty sure things like this and updating skills ques are things CCP is trying to make available to 3rd party with CREST


as for should CCP do it?

no everything that is not EVE they fail at. It is either a mess or never sees the light of day and all we get for it is things getting done slower in eve

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u3pog
Ministerstvo na otbranata
Ore No More
#17 - 2015-01-26 22:58:59 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
u3pog wrote:
Can you use the current 3rd party software to update market orders? If not, then it would be nice if CCP creates such an app, so you may trade anywhere.

If you want to maintain your .01 isk advantage on the market, log in to do it.


If I could bring my desktop PC with me anywhere I would...Sure I can buy laptop, but I consider the smartphone to have the advantage of nobody being able to see what you do. :) Yes, you are right, I wanna use it at work, the place where I spend most of the time...
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#18 - 2015-01-27 02:24:49 UTC
u3pog wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
u3pog wrote:
Can you use the current 3rd party software to update market orders? If not, then it would be nice if CCP creates such an app, so you may trade anywhere.

If you want to maintain your .01 isk advantage on the market, log in to do it.


If I could bring my desktop PC with me anywhere I would...Sure I can buy laptop, but I consider the smartphone to have the advantage of nobody being able to see what you do. :) Yes, you are right, I wanna use it at work, the place where I spend most of the time...




you do know when goofing off on a smartphone/tablet its more obvious, right? This just my non-scientific observation over the years.

Smart phones/tablets I find you stand out really concentrating on that hand held device. Its the whole trying to be slick looking down at your lap for several seconds to minutes that gives it away. Vice goofing off on the computer....you are looking straight ahead and if not truly engrossed in the diversion can see the boss coming to minimize/close the screen lol.

That and its clear even with basic surfing you are going out your way to avoid the work network for some reason. Or else you'd be happily surfing on the much bigger screen of your desk monitor lol.
u3pog
Ministerstvo na otbranata
Ore No More
#19 - 2015-01-27 18:15:06 UTC
Zan Shiro wrote:
u3pog wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
u3pog wrote:
Can you use the current 3rd party software to update market orders? If not, then it would be nice if CCP creates such an app, so you may trade anywhere.

If you want to maintain your .01 isk advantage on the market, log in to do it.


If I could bring my desktop PC with me anywhere I would...Sure I can buy laptop, but I consider the smartphone to have the advantage of nobody being able to see what you do. :) Yes, you are right, I wanna use it at work, the place where I spend most of the time...




you do know when goofing off on a smartphone/tablet its more obvious, right? This just my non-scientific observation over the years.

Smart phones/tablets I find you stand out really concentrating on that hand held device. Its the whole trying to be slick looking down at your lap for several seconds to minutes that gives it away. Vice goofing off on the computer....you are looking straight ahead and if not truly engrossed in the diversion can see the boss coming to minimize/close the screen lol.

That and its clear even with basic surfing you are going out your way to avoid the work network for some reason. Or else you'd be happily surfing on the much bigger screen of your desk monitor lol.


I tried VNC for android today - voila! Logged on to my home PC, but boy was I surprised when I found out how hard it is to control it remotely using only my bare fingers :) I nearly sold something 10 times cheaper, good thing we have the warning messages...Right now I am logged at work - I can write on the forums, but can't install the client here as it will be too insolent of me :) They can monitor the traffic, they'll see I am logging onto certain web pages, but as long as I don't do it too often they're fine with it (our admins).
The most elegant solution would be to buy a laptop, but it will also be the most obvious. I don't know what to do - has anyone else had such problems when trying to play at work and how you solved it?
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#20 - 2015-01-28 11:32:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
u3pog wrote:

The most elegant solution would be to buy a laptop, but it will also be the most obvious. I don't know what to do - has anyone else had such problems when trying to play at work and how you solved it?



Work as a network admin for a company that buys you low grade dells and expects miracles to happen. I make the miracles happen by bringing the mac book pro to work. Its beefed up to where I can do some parts of my job properly. Like run test VM's for windows stuff...as the whopping 4 gb total my work dell has....ain't running 2008 r2 vm worth a damn once a server app needing its memory too is slapped onto the install.

..and now its accepted. People are used to it being there I can get my diversions from time to time on slow days and not many peeps around. Or way too early in the morning starts for my patching cycles monthly. Just watching patches apply and servers rebooting...wtf else am I gonna do at 0400 in the morning solo lol.