EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hello there!

For awhile now, I have been bored of playing games; I had been searching for a free to play MMO, but then I realized something.

Free to Play MMOS. Suck. They are full of morons, are "pay to win", and get extremely boring after five minutes.

So then, I decided to play EVE, since it was a game with a STEEP learning curve, a mature community, and was jammed packed with new content, and has been running for over 10 years! I have just created my account and have started to delve into the "exploration" tutorials, when I saw that I had 300,000 ISK! I was FILTHY rich! Till I found out how much a plex, ships, and many pieces of the game cost.

Oops, guess I'm not that rich.

So, I am probably going to use this account to learn all of the ropes, but first I have MANY questions to ask! I thank in advance to anybody willing to answer these;


1. What is a good game plan for starting out? What should I do to instantly get money (even to bypass the tutorial?)

2. CAN I bypass the tutorial?

3. As a trial account, what is the easiest way for me to make money WITHOUT doing missions?

4. Even when my account goes AWOL on the game, can i still write on the forums?

5. Can I ask for invites somewhere?

6. I forget the invite information, what is it?


I will probably keep asking more questions as I get answers. Thank you for being a help to get me started on EVE!

First you say that you have recognised EVE as "a game with a STEEP learning curve", then you ask if you can bypass the tutorial.

Eh???

Btw, it's tutorials, plural.

Do whatever you want.



Yes, however as others have pointed out; do the missions.



Whatever. Scam or steal I suppose.



No.



Invites to what exactly? Question 6 is basically the same thing.

Hi and welcome.

1. Make sure you do all the tutorial and career agent missions. You'll get much more ISK than you have, plus many free skills that you'd otherwise have to buy. You'll get some ships and other things, too.

1a. Look at doing the Sisters of Eve Epic Arc, The Blood-Stained Stars, as that will help to get some more ISK and experience while still training up the essential skills.

1b. You'll start to figure out what you like best so far (such as exploration) and you'll want to train skills to start to become effective for those areas that interest you the most. Exercise some patience, as it does take a bit of time to get decent skills. Don't try and do all the things and expect to be even mediocre at them until you've invested the training and time, along with practical experience.

1c. Get involved with newbie friendly groups and find yourself a player corp, and I recommend looking at an educational organization such as Eve University. You don't actually have to join them to get a lot of what they have to offer, such as classes, their public help chat channel (in-game "E-UNI"), and their forums, voice comms, as well as their very good wiki. Getting involved with a good corp and a good group of players is one of the most essential things you can do to get the most out of the game, as well as all sorts of help and resources.

2. You can, but you'll spend exponentially far more time asking questions to figure out how basic things work, not to mention not gaining the material benefits. In short, don't skip any of them.

3. Buying PLEX from CCP (for $$) and then selling the PLEX in-game on the market. You'll need 20 to 30 million in ISK to cover the escrow for placing the sell order, or filling a buy order, and then paying the sales tax, for each PLEX you want to sell. This will net you about 780 million per PLEX at this point. If that's not an option, or you don't want to do that, then you're given the skill and a free mining frigate, called a Venture, Fit it with a couple of mining lasers and go mine some veldspar or scordite. Each ore bay load that you get (which will take you about 25 minutes) should get you around 1 million ISK when you sell the ore on the market. Don't even bother to think about refining it, you'll lose potential ISK. You may find that mining is rather boring, but it's steady income for a new pilot and you can pad your wallet quite nicely. Besides, you'll be awaiting certain skills to get trained up anyway. If you're poking around doing exploring it is possible you could make a huge score with some rare loot, but that is highly unlikely. You need skills, a scanning frigate, modules, rigs, and a fair amount of luck.

3a. Don't consider it realistic in your trial account time that you'll earn enough ISK in-game to be able to buy a PLEX in-game to then use to upgrade your account.

3b. One you're skilled up and have some experience you will find much better ways of earning ISK rather than grinding mining or missions (although missions give other benefits such as standings and Loyalty Points), unless you enjoy those things. Eve is a sandbox, and ultimately you do what you enjoy, and not what others say you should enjoy.

4. Once your account goes inactive you'll not be able to log into the Eve Online forums anymore. You can access all the other forums maintained by player groups that allow you to register on them.

5. Invites to what exactly? If you mean player corps, you can apply to join them in-game but most good corps will have you follow a different process then only using the in-game mechanic to invite you into their corp.

6. See my answer to 5.

Again, welcome aboard.

You can't send invites unless you're a subbed account.

Pariah? Like.....

Corp thief, scamming (which could be a good way to earn ISK outside of missions), AWOXing (using the intra-corp aggression mechanics allowing you to destroy corp mates in non-NPC corps without CONCORD intervention), using the character as a suicide ganker, etc. If you make enough of a bad reputation in the character's name you won't be able to get anywhere with the character in a social sense, such as in getting into player corps and such.

By invite I assume you mean buddy invites..

go to reddit.com/r/evenewbies and click the link at the top.

a couple tips:

Eve is not a min/max game. There is no best in slot there is no elitist jerks for eve. Eve is all about doing more with less. You have everything that you need to be helpful and useful from day one in this game. Give up any ideas that you have about maxing anything out and just do what you like and have fun.

The best ship in Eve is friendship. This game is a true MMO in that it is not meant to be played alone. Make friends and find a decent corp to join that is new player friendly.

Early on you will probably want to focus on combat skills for small ships. You can make more isk / hour doing combat than mining and any of the industrial isk making ventures usually require a bit of understand of how the game works that a new player just does not have regardless of skill points.

Bigger is not better many old vets will tell you that they fly smaller ships more often as they are more fun to fly. Don't rush into a Battleship there is no need nor any benefit in doing so.

You can skip the tutorial but they are a quicker and easier way to learn than running to the new player forum every time that you have a question. If you have friends in game that can answer questions for you then potentially you could skip the tutorials.

This is a game. Figure out what you have fun doing then find a way to make isk doing that. You can make isk doing pretty much anything.

I am sensing here that you are implying that you would like to figure out how to pay for game time with a PLEX with in your 21 day trial. A lot of new players ask about that here and it's a bad idea. If you can even make it happen it will turn this game into a job in the literal sense. Yes free to play games suck so pay the $10.88 to $15 per month it costs and just have fun.

That kind of depends on what you mean by "elitist jerk". I've flown with what a lot of people considered "elitist jerks" because they believed their fits (which where extremely tight with nearly max skills) where believed to be "the best" and they expected everyone to strictly follow their doctrines. Or not join fleet.

While in fleet they were really nice guys.

Anyway, that is one extreme - then most corps/alliances are not "elitist jerks" at all. On the other side of the scale you have extremely newbie friendly corps/alliances like RvB, Eve Uni and (so i hear) Brave. Middle ground would be Test and Goons with their "newbro" fleets I guess. These are of course mainly pvp examples - because I know that world the best after living in it for most of my active game time (Brave started when I was inactive).