Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Wow i see ganker this and ganker that.........

-10 this and -10 that......

Lets try this and pretend -10 sec statust doesnt exsist
and no such thing as ganking exsists.

Btw i got to about post 30 and had read enough.

Now if your not a ganker(it doenst exsist right)
But you have done something while being in an NPC corp to reduce the standings you have to another NPC corp.......

Then you should not be allowed to dock with the station you now have negative standings with.

Now whether your in FW or not but have a negative Faction standing.....you should not be able to dock with any of the opposing stations belonging to that faction. Only way to fix that is to get a friend or alt to help you fix those standings.
I believe these are things most important to the OP, not gankers.

Now back to ganking exsisting.........
Maybe not being allowed to dock up as a -10 criminal would provide more content and conflict to both sides of the question.
Or at least maybe gankers(organizations) might find having to use the tags for once giving them a reason to even exsist.

anyway its all conjecture anyway.

I'd support -10 players having to pay the docking manager a token bribe of a miniscule amount of isk for lore reasons.
I don't care what anyone says, consistency in the lore is good for the game and the OP is right in that criminals being able to dock anywhere they like doesn't really make sense.

However I think the current system is basically fine, locking -10's out of hi-sec stations altogether is way to far.
A 'hey dude, here's a 1000isk, be cool and let me dock' charge would make me slightly happier though.

Well now that this thread was completely derailed by a couple of butthurt gankers that even admitted they didn't read and just trolled because they thought it was another anti-gank CCP needs to protect and hand-hold hisec carebears thread.

The OP was never about if ganking is wrong or shouldn't be in game or that CCP needs to hand hold victims of ganking. It was not about if ganking shouldn't be profitable. It was never about the ins and outs of proper ship choice and fitting and piloting to avoid ganks, or educating players on best practices to avoid ganks or really bad losses to ganks.

It was supposed to be about having bad standings with NPC factions and corps. Plain and simple. Part of it was my fault for not recognizing the trolls to begin with and giving them the benefit of the doubt that they were just mis-understanding things. So my bad, I know better and to not feed the trolls. And I now know that off-topic posts and trolling aren't monitored by the moderators. Just like in game, lesson learned, in this case at the expense of my thread, another suggestion thread getting tanked by trolls, wonder if they have a score board somewhere with how many good idea or suggestion threads they derailed.

Back on topic, though now that this thread is filled with off-topic back and forths due to the trolls, it is nice to finally see some at least attempting to be on topic responses.

Keep in mind this isn't just criminals, this is for any pilot who has bad standing with the station's owner. I do like the idea to not necessarily lock them out, but adding a trivial "docking bribe" would only hurt anyone who had no isk at all, kinda like that first clone upgrade fee, it was trivial except that first time or two as a noob you didn't always have the what, 5k to put up for it? That and they have seemingly been in the mood lately to remove trivial annoying fees like the clone upgrades and med clones, which they changed to not be nearly as trivial. But even a small amount wouldn't really bother most people.

Or maybe they can change a few things to make some NPCs more criminal friendly in the case of low security standings, so they would still be able to dock up but would have much less in the way of options or systems available. Maybe like a gate bribe instead of the docking bribe? The gates are manned and operated by the officers too. I mean it wouldn't really be fair to lock them out of gates, but on the flip side, its not exactly hard to raise your standing back to positive and keep it there with the recent changes, and this is a game of choices and consequences.