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Concord system broken?

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Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2015-01-07 19:58:49 UTC
Roonia wrote:
GM's - Please lock the thread.

I think the opportunity for constructive discussion has come and gone.


I see my first post to you, which i thought was very constructive, isnt gonna get a response. Oh wells, i suppose im used to people dodging my arguments because theyre unable to respond back.
Roonia
Vassagon
#62 - 2015-01-07 20:18:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Roonia
Solonius Rex wrote:
Roonia wrote:
GM's - Please lock the thread.

I think the opportunity for constructive discussion has come and gone.


I see my first post to you, which i thought was very constructive, isnt gonna get a response. Oh wells, i suppose im used to people dodging my arguments because theyre unable to respond back.


I realized the orca thing once i saw the fit of the kill mail. I realize that manpower is also a factor, which i specified in my original post, not just ISK. My basic point is that the gaking thing took epidemic proportions, usually, in any environment like this when something happens this much, it usually a balance issue. I would be curios to see the statistics of dead barges vs the dead ships that kllled them, cost ratio and numbers in the last 6 months. Also putting up these numbers against the high sec ship kills daily average, would give you some meaningfull information.

Like seeing that dead barges account for 1% of total high sec isk loss would be no biggie and would mean things are not bad. Seeing dead barges and podded miners making up 25% of isk loss would indicate a problem.
Roonia
Vassagon
#63 - 2015-01-07 20:23:00 UTC
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Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#64 - 2015-01-07 20:49:21 UTC
Roonia wrote:
Can fly all sub cap ships L5 and all guns and missiles L5

Roonia wrote:
Here is the eveboard for yall morons out there. http://eveboard.com/pilot/Roonia

uhhh...
Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2015-01-07 20:57:52 UTC
Roonia wrote:
Solonius Rex wrote:
Roonia wrote:
GM's - Please lock the thread.

I think the opportunity for constructive discussion has come and gone.


I see my first post to you, which i thought was very constructive, isnt gonna get a response. Oh wells, i suppose im used to people dodging my arguments because theyre unable to respond back.


I realized the orca thing once i saw the fit of the kill mail. I realize that manpower is also a factor, which i specified in my original post, not just ISK. My basic point is that the gaking thing took epidemic proportions, usually, in any environment like this when something happens this much, it usually a balance issue. I would be curios to see the statistics of dead barges vs the dead ships that kllled them, cost ratio and numbers in the last 6 months. Also putting up these numbers against the high sec ship kills daily average, would give you some meaningfull information.

Like seeing that dead barges account for 1% of total high sec isk loss would be no biggie and would mean things are not bad. Seeing dead barges and podded miners making up 25% of isk loss would indicate a problem.


But thats the point you dont seem to understand, though. The side that is willing to risk the most players, gains the most advantage. This is an extremely important aspect in eve.

It doesnt matter if your ship costs 100 times more than your opponents ship. That is something that means little in a fight where you are outnumbered 10 to 1. Even if 25% of the isk loss was attributed to dead barges and podded miners(which is nearly impossible, since industrials carry far more isk loot than an orca ever could, cost twice the amount, plus all the mission running ships that get ganked or die), this is only a testament to how much effort these gankers are putting into their endeavor.

Again, it shouldnt be surprising to anyone, that the people who make the effort, get the most out of their endeavors, and comes on top.
Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2015-01-07 20:58:39 UTC
Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:
Roonia wrote:
Can fly all sub cap ships L5 and all guns and missiles L5

Roonia wrote:
Here is the eveboard for yall morons out there. http://eveboard.com/pilot/Roonia

uhhh...


I think shes talking about how she can use all the T2 weapons, and not necessarily that all the Specializations are level 5.
Roonia
Vassagon
#67 - 2015-01-07 21:27:11 UTC
Solonius Rex wrote:
Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:
Roonia wrote:
Can fly all sub cap ships L5 and all guns and missiles L5

Roonia wrote:
Here is the eveboard for yall morons out there. http://eveboard.com/pilot/Roonia

uhhh...


I think shes talking about how she can use all the T2 weapons, and not necessarily that all the Specializations are level 5.


Level 5 specialization is not really worth it unless you have nothing else to do with your time.
412nv Yaken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#68 - 2015-01-07 23:42:57 UTC  |  Edited by: 412nv Yaken
For the TLDR

OP:CCP PLEASE SAVE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE NERF ALL OF HIGHSEC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EVERYTHING IS BROKEN

CCP: Get friends or a tank, or use a different ship or fight back.

OP: NOOOOOOOO YOU NEED TO FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT IS BROKEN!!!

ALL MINERS ARE POWERLESS

A True Champion of High Security Space

ISD Supogo
ISD BH
ISD Alliance
#69 - 2015-01-08 04:48:15 UTC
Removed a personal attack post and those quoting it.

Quote:

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4. Personal attacks are prohibited.

Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not conductive to the community spirit that CCP promotes. As such, this kind of behavior will not be tolerated.

ISD BH Supogo

Bughunter

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#70 - 2015-01-08 05:19:26 UTC
CCP, please buff the tank on asteroids. They are constantly being ganked by miners.

Also please have CONCORD respond to miners whom aggress non-suspect flagged rocks.

Fair is fair.

Also, negative wallet for depleting belts of prized natural resources.


Mining in empire space is a crime. Those rocks are the property of the Caldari Navy. Mine in lowsec, nullsec, or jspace.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#71 - 2015-01-08 05:25:35 UTC
Roonia wrote:

Level 5 specialization is not really worth it unless you have nothing else to do with your time.


Simple math would seem to disagree with you. An extra 5% DPS or tank often makes or breaks a battle.

Pretty much all level 5 skills are worth it. Time consuming, yes, but worth it.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

412nv Yaken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#72 - 2015-01-08 07:51:46 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Roonia wrote:

Level 5 specialization is not really worth it unless you have nothing else to do with your time.


Simple math would seem to disagree with you. An extra 5% DPS or tank often makes or breaks a battle.

Pretty much all level 5 skills are worth it. Time consuming, yes, but worth it.


Not when ur a captial 5 pilot who mines in highsec apparently.

A True Champion of High Security Space

CODE Agent AC
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#73 - 2015-01-08 08:18:25 UTC
Not a bug.

Working as intended.

The Artist Formerly Known As AC. 

The terminal end of the digestive system. 

The Best CSM Candidate

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#74 - 2015-01-08 09:31:19 UTC
Closed at OP's request.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department