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Sphynix
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#21 - 2011-12-18 21:52:07 UTC
Chung Ju-yung wrote:
Statistics. How do they work?


80% of statistics are made up on the spot. It is easy to prove too!
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#22 - 2011-12-18 22:42:55 UTC
Sphynix wrote:
Chung Ju-yung wrote:
Statistics. How do they work?


80% of statistics are made up on the spot. It is easy to prove too!


Everyone knows its only 70%. Get your facts right.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2011-12-18 23:15:00 UTC
1-Up Mushroom wrote:
Come on bro you ask a stupid question you get stupid responses, you want real answers ask a real question, and there is a real way to ask your question, but your stupid question doesn't get real answers, so get real and don't be so stupid


Learn to read.

His question is a simple one pertaining to the Guristas Watch site.

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Anyone after crucible had escalations with that one ?

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Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#24 - 2011-12-18 23:32:46 UTC
His question is stupid and rather ignorant, as its derived from a conclusion drawn after anecdotal observations that he coincidentally made after a patch.
Nicholas Tong
Doomheim
#25 - 2011-12-19 00:28:54 UTC
I'm also posting in a cool and edgy way and bumping this thread like everybody else.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#26 - 2011-12-19 02:45:25 UTC
Nicholas Tong wrote:
I'm also posting in a cool and edgy way and bumping this thread like everybody else.


Easily the best post in this thread. You should join test or goons.
Yvella
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2011-12-19 15:23:47 UTC
Emperor Salazar wrote:
Nicholas Tong wrote:
I'm also posting in a cool and edgy way and bumping this thread like everybody else.


Easily the best post in this thread. You should join test or goons.


I bet you work in law, or some other "profession" that pretends it understands things (lol economics). Either that or you are just a massive troll who would love for people to stop stealing your high sec plexes.

OP posted a valid hypothesis lol :CCP: break something with a patch I never.... and asked the community for shared data as to understand something chanced based highest possible sample size is best, and this is an MMORPG after all
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#28 - 2011-12-19 15:46:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Emperor Salazar
Yvella wrote:
Emperor Salazar wrote:
Nicholas Tong wrote:
I'm also posting in a cool and edgy way and bumping this thread like everybody else.


Easily the best post in this thread. You should join test or goons.


I bet you work in law, or some other "profession" that pretends it understands things (lol economics). Either that or you are just a massive troll who would love for people to stop stealing your high sec plexes.

OP posted a valid hypothesis lol :CCP: break something with a patch I never.... and asked the community for shared data as to understand something chanced based highest possible sample size is best, and this is an MMORPG after all


Im actually in engineering and I haven't farmed high sec in a while (I miss it sometimes)....trolololol nice assumptions though. Also, why you hate lawyers and economists? And....now I know this is hard, but lets try to be intelligent for a second. If I wanted to get him to stop stealing my high sec plexes....don't you think I'd agree with him that something is broken and thus they are not worth doing? Logic is hard, I know.

As for his hypothesis....it wasn't valid...at all. It comes up after every patch because people do not have a basic understanding of statistics. He hypothesized that something was wrong because "everytime i find a guristas watch i do them, after crucible none has so far escalated." His hypothesis is derived from an unknown sample size (likely an inconsequential amount) and the fact that any sort of perceived error must have been caused by a patch. Instead of accepting that escalations are rare for a reason he came to the forums to tell us about his **** poor data.
Yvella
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2011-12-19 16:33:59 UTC
Emperor Salazar wrote:
Yvella wrote:
Emperor Salazar wrote:
Nicholas Tong wrote:
I'm also posting in a cool and edgy way and bumping this thread like everybody else.


Easily the best post in this thread. You should join test or goons.


I bet you work in law, or some other "profession" that pretends it understands things (lol economics). Either that or you are just a massive troll who would love for people to stop stealing your high sec plexes.

OP posted a valid hypothesis lol :CCP: break something with a patch I never.... and asked the community for shared data as to understand something chanced based highest possible sample size is best, and this is an MMORPG after all


Im actually in engineering and I haven't farmed high sec in a while (I miss it sometimes)....trolololol nice assumptions though. Also, why you hate lawyers and economists? And....now I know this is hard, but lets try to be intelligent for a second. If I wanted to get him to stop stealing my high sec plexes....don't you think I'd agree with him that something is broken and thus they are not worth doing? Logic is hard, I know.

As for his hypothesis....it wasn't valid...at all. It comes up after every patch because people do not have a basic understanding of statistics. He hypothesized that something was wrong because "everytime i find a guristas watch i do them, after crucible none has so far escalated." His hypothesis is derived from an unknown sample size (likely an inconsequential amount) and the fact that any sort of perceived error must have been caused by a patch. Instead of accepting that escalations are rare for a reason he came to the forums to tell us about his **** poor data.


I think his hypothesis was based not just on his **** poor data, but an externality to the numbers I.E. a patch.

I thought the level of trolling was a bit excessive for his question
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#30 - 2011-12-19 16:37:42 UTC
Plenty of logical explanations to go with the delightful posting you all refer to as trolling. I don't see the problem.
OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
#31 - 2011-12-19 16:39:11 UTC
His questions got so much trolling because every patch there are exactly eleventy billion threads exactly like this with people who have run 4 of [site x] and not gotten a single [desired outcome y]. All we are asking is for people to either a) read the forums before posting or b) get a significant sample size first.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#32 - 2011-12-19 16:42:46 UTC
OllieNorth wrote:
His questions got so much trolling because every patch there are exactly eleventy billion threads exactly like this with people who have run 4 of [site x] and not gotten a single [desired outcome y]. All we are asking is for people to either a) read the forums before posting or b) get a significant sample size first.


This. I believe the same thing happens with invention every expansion/patch as well. I know it did this time.
OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
#33 - 2011-12-19 16:46:34 UTC
You know Salazar, it's getting to the point where I think we are just talking to ourselves on this in every thread.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#34 - 2011-12-19 16:47:38 UTC
Well in that case...

what'd you have for breakfast today? I had time before work to make bacon and french toast. It was pretty delicious.
Scortched Merc
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#35 - 2011-12-19 16:53:42 UTC
Everyone just need to stop exploring... there is nothing to find.

I'll tell you what, go back to ratting, mission whoring... whatever you want, hell try planet interaction, gawd knows CCP would love to hear if any one actually does that stuff. I'll stop what I'm doing and start probing, I will let you know in if I happen to find anything of value, its doubtful, but I know you guys want to go make your iskie.

I know I'm taking the hit here, haveing to probe to find nothing out there, but if you feel sad for me or anything shoot me some isk to make yourself happier.

E .· ` ' / ·. F **Your tears fuel my internet spaceship. **
OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
#36 - 2011-12-19 16:55:01 UTC
Not me, running late this morning, so just some cereal and a coffee on the way in.

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Zenedia
Doomheim
#37 - 2011-12-19 19:16:41 UTC
Another patch another exploration is broken thread. Why is there even an option to search the forums anymore?
Amelia Shortcake
Doomheim
#38 - 2011-12-19 20:21:48 UTC
ffs
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2011-12-20 03:32:07 UTC
Dang, they be coming out of the woodwork now. Someone must have sounded the Troll Horn in 'General Discussion' and pointed to 'Missions and Complexes'.


OllieNorth wrote:
All we are asking is for people to either a) read the forums before posting or b) get a significant sample size first.


I read the forums. CCP doesn't like to and rarely ever posts any statements saying their latest patch has broken various things in the game. Instead they just keep doing a bunch of little 'Updates' every couple of days for about 2 weeks until eventually everything is moderately close to being normal again.

So please tell us your version of what a significant sample size should be?

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Fireflyb1
Walden 2.0
#40 - 2011-12-20 03:43:50 UTC
Emperor Salazar wrote:
Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:
everytime i find a guristas watch i do them, after crucible none has so far escalated. anyone after crucible had escaltions with that one ?


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Funny how you always seem to be the first to post on threads like these Roll.
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