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Solops Crendraven

University of Caille

Gallente Federation

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#141 - 2015-01-06 19:17:47 UTC | Edited by: Solops Crendraven

Naturalcause Lemon wrote:

I got ganked today in a .7 zone and was told it is illegal for me to mine in high sec without a permit. (according to the new order on some mining bumping site). Plz give me honest answers on how i should continue my solo mining career. Am i really not safe mining anywhere?

Permits? Just Mine in 10 accounts with Procurers and ECM Drones And AFK or if you only have two accounts just agress yourself and concord will be dispatched to Belt = free Protection or mine with me I have Orca Support.

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ISD Ezwal

ISD Community Communications Liaisons

ISD Alliance

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#142 - 2015-01-06 20:05:19 UTC | Edited by: ISD Ezwal

I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!

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The Order of Anoyia 1,714
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia Likes received: 1,714	#143 - 2015-01-07 00:20:46 UTC +1 for the effort and for ISD Ezwal wrote: Thread reopened. Remove standings and insurance.

Epic Ganking Time CODE. 3,461
Gogela Epic Ganking Time CODE. Likes received: 3,461	#144 - 2015-01-07 00:23:33 UTC Everyone needs a highsec mining permit. Everyone knows this. You should contact your closest CODE representative today and get one asap. Signatures should be used responsibly...

Z'kroooh Ouau

Federal Defense Union

Gallente Federation

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#145 - 2015-01-08 23:19:01 UTC

ISD LackOfFaith wrote:

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Forum rules

Griefing (repeated targeting of a player with gameplay-denying tactics with no other objective other than to ruin the player's day) is a serious issue, and if you believe you are the target of griefing, please file a support ticket about it.

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Thank you, and please keep the thread constructive, with minimal slapfighting and namecalling.

(Ed: reviewed some of my wording)

Now, please tell us of mighty ISD that how suicide ganking is different from griefing?

Suicide gank is the definition of griefing.

There is no other objective than to ruin players day.

There are no objective for making profit, or gaining mining area to their own miners.

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Vapor Ventrillian The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 771	#146 - 2015-01-08 23:26:29 UTC No permit required as an eve mechanic slightly increased risk by not having one...bit like a cheaper module on your ship its still crap The Evil Overlord of Scope, self elected as all good overlords should be

Ferni Ka'Nviiou

Doomheim

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#147 - 2015-01-08 23:28:13 UTC | Edited by: Ferni Ka'Nviiou

Z'kroooh Ouau wrote:

ISD LackOfFaith wrote:

Quote:

Forum rules

Thank you, and please keep the thread constructive, with minimal slapfighting and namecalling.

(Ed: reviewed some of my wording)

Quote:

Like he said, specific targeting of a player with gameplay denying tactics unto that specific player. Yes the objective is to ruin somebody's day, but it's pretty easy to prevent.

It's like me saying:
"No, don't target me! I'm only here to fight NPCs in your -1.0 security space! How could you!?"

45thtiger 0109

Pan-Intergalatic Business Community

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#148 - 2015-01-08 23:51:15 UTC

Naturalcause Lemon wrote:

Or goto 0.0 if you really want to mine in peace and join a major alliance.

But the rules of 0.0 is always keep an eye out in local for hostiles.

**You Have to take the good with the bad and the bad with the good.

Welcome to EvE OnLiNe**

Ferni Ka'Nviiou

Doomheim

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#149 - 2015-01-08 23:55:10 UTC

45thtiger 0109 wrote:

Naturalcause Lemon wrote:

Or goto 0.0 if you really want to mine in peace and join a major alliance.

But the rules of 0.0 is always keep an eye out in local for hostiles.

You're no more at peace than in high security.
If you apply the same 'check local' rule to high security, then you'll be well aware of possible ganks.
Unfortunately a lot don't... And thus we have continued ganks.


45thtiger 0109 Pan-Intergalatic Business Community Likes received: 174	#150 - 2015-01-08 23:58:18 UTC Renly Hagen wrote: Hmmm...I've never had a problem mining in either highsec or lowsec and have never seen anyone from CODE. Well watchout CODE might be after you next. You just open another can of worms ouch You Have to take the good with the bad and the bad with the good. Welcome to EvE OnLiNe


Vapor Ventrillian The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 771	#151 - 2015-01-09 00:02:20 UTC \| Edited by: Vapor Ventrillian 1 Or miners could grow a pair and shoot back lawdy RAPTOR who shalt defend the sheep!?...and the raptor jesus said thus...protect them!? you art a fool, we must provoke them in order to draw out their inner doomkitty And the Vapor hath done so since The Evil Overlord of Scope, self elected as all good overlords should be

Concord Guy's Cousin

Doomheim

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#152 - 2015-01-09 02:53:42 UTC | Edited by: Concord Guy's Cousin

Vapor Ventrillian wrote:

Or miners could grow a pair and shoot back

lawdy RAPTOR who shalt defend the sheep!?...and the raptor jesus said thus...protect them!? you art a fool, we must provoke them in order to draw out their inner doomkitty

And the Vapor hath done so since

Haven't you heard? According to some, miners are completely defenseless despite having the choice of using ships that have both the ability to fit substantial tanks and a 50% bonus to drone damage, at the expense of a little yield.

ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"

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Mario Putzo

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#153 - 2015-01-09 03:09:24 UTC | Edited by: Mario Putzo

I think it is neat you can have an alt or friend shoot you in a rookie ship spawn concord and mine in peace until concord leaves. Then when they do you just get in another free rookie ship and spawn concord again.

I think probably the coolest thing is, for a small price you can keep that alts sec status mostly neutral which should totally be worth having the constant security of CONCORD around. Hec having a -10 Alt in an Ibis show up every 10 minutes to keep concord around would be free...who cares about sec status.

Once he goes -5 you don't even need to shoot with him anymore. Keep grabbing a free Ibis, and keep undocking and welping into concord.

You can literally keep concord on your grid 100% of the time. Entirely for free.

Why is this in the game? That shouldn't be possible.

Kagura Nikon

Native Freshfood

Minmatar Republic

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#154 - 2015-01-09 09:29:12 UTC

Naturalcause Lemon wrote:

You are not safe doing ANYTHING in eve that is done while undocked.

Not only mining.. ANYTHING.

But no do not pay attention to that mining permit bullshit. JSut go far far away in a remote corner of non pupolated territory and you chances of being ganked drop tenfold.

"If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!"

Kagura Nikon

Native Freshfood

Minmatar Republic

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#155 - 2015-01-09 09:35:31 UTC

Z'kroooh Ouau wrote:

ISD LackOfFaith wrote:

[quote]
Forum rules

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Thank you, and please keep the thread constructive, with minimal slapfighting and namecalling.

(Ed: reviewed some of my wording)

Nope because they have other objective than to make yOUR life miserable. Their objective is a global scale enforcement of no mining in high sec. That is not griefing.

I do think their work is made too easy by destroyers... but besides that they are entitled to play like that.

"If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!"

Agondray

Avenger Mercenaries

VOID Intergalactic Forces

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#156 - 2015-01-09 15:55:39 UTC

no code are morons, you don't need a permit but they have players that don't mine paying them to kill carebears (people that don't take risk) and are trying to run everyone out of highsec/ quit the game/ go to null sec

I have a way to help you in mining as I do so if youll contact me ingame I can assist you there and tell you more.

for the people that say this is a military economy, missions/ratting/incursions is all isk printing, making isk out of nothing unless you salvage too, Mining is not making isk out of nothing but getting minerals to put on market while some mins are flooded, all mins go into building something to blown up soon or later and disappears from the game, the isk to buy those does not disappear except in taxes, the isk just changes hands

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith

Black Pedro

Mine.

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#157 - 2015-01-09 16:08:05 UTC

Agondray wrote:

for the people that say this is a military economy, missions/ratting/incursions is all isk printing, making isk out of nothing unless you salvage too, Mining is not making isk out of nothing but getting minerals to put on market while some mins are flooded, all mins go into building something to blown up soon or later and disappears from the game, the isk to buy those does not disappear except in taxes, the isk just changes hands

Resources are resources friend. Every bit of ore you mine and put on the market devalues my ore - it's just simple supply and demand.

You can't let resource printing like mining go unchecked or it will ruin the economy. That's why there needs to be both some risk, and some guidelines (AKA the Code), to keep miners under control.

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Why Do They Gank?

Varathius

Enlightened Industries

Goonswarm Federation

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#158 - 2015-01-09 16:37:10 UTC

Naturalcause Lemon wrote:

best thing is to give the alliance called CODE your exact location. They will for sure gladly be flying escort and protection duties for your needs, for a price.

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Ramona McCandless Silent Vale LinkNet Likes received: 7,384	#159 - 2015-01-09 16:44:48 UTC 1 Naturalcause Lemon wrote: Am i really not safe mining anywhere? You are not safe doing anything anywhere "Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway "A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann