EVE New Citizens Q&A

Honestly , loss is everything for me in eve.
It's what gives weight and meaning to my actions (and the conciquensess) in this game,
without the loss, or the potential for it, eve loses that edgy fear I feel in love with,
my victorys become hollow and ultimately pointless.

So to be brief, I learned to love it.

Though it's worth noting that you haven't actually lost anything there,
you failed certainly but you asplode.

I go outside for a while. In your case it's like fishing, you now have a good story about the one that got away (1B -> I mean 2B BPC).


FWIW, the more valuable the loot the harder it's going to be to successfully crack the can. Training Arch V is very much worth it.

EVE has often been compared to Chess, so I'll use that as an analogy here.

When you lose a queen it's a pretty big loss.

Do you toss the board? Do you punch your opponent in the face? Or do you soldier on while ruminating over what you could have done to prevent that loss and figure out a strategy for the future.

I'd like to think it's the third option.

Same goes for EVE. You can ragequit. You can cry. Scream in local. Start threads blaming anything but you for the situation you put yourself in. Or you can give some thought to why you got in that situation in the first place and come up with a strategy for next time.

Which do you think gets you further in the game?

And just to further the analogy. Any loss in only a momentary thing. You get to start over the next time you reset the pieces for the next match. Same with EVE. Each new belt/ site/ battle/ etc is a new thing. So while you shouldn't forget what happened before, neither should you dwell on it. Learn from it and move on.

Mr Epeen

This right here ^^

The losses suck. Paying for plex sucks. I hate paying $20 to go see a movie even worse.

I'd rather be playing Eve - and exploring the universe that has been created by them awesome programmers and artists.

My biggest loss to-date was a 2.5 billion ISK Tengu.

I handled it by immediately buying another one. In EVE, ships are consumables.

I gave up using a cargo scanner when I checked my last can and it had 94m worth of loot according to eve praisal. I failed the can and instead I dropped the scanner in favor of a scanning module. Maybe it's superstitious but I felt like I was always failing high value cans and I would rather not know what's in there.

Also dreading the 10+ day archaeology train.

that's Cute

A good way to deal with bigger losses is to plan one. That's right, suicide yourself at the end of your first Insurance contract.

This is how I usually do it. If any PVP ship happens to get below 2 weeks of insurance time I will welp it, no matter what class it is apart from T3 Cruisers (because of SP loss). That makes your losses quite predictable, and each time you fail at dying (yes this happens) the reward is to keep the ship a while longer. With predictable costs, losses become a lot more managable.

I also stock up on tons of PVP mods. There is little sense in having a huge wallet number and no assets you can actually use. I have hundreds, if not thousands of T2 and Meta 4 modules from looting and purchasing the last few years. Oh my friend wants to sell me some drones for a little discount? Sure, give me 100... the higher number of items you buy, the bigger the sum of those discounts.

The absolute best way to handle loss really wel, is go become filthy rich with very little effort, and have some much stuff it literally doesnt matter what you lose. The way I play I end up with tens, maybe hundreds of fitted ships and perhaps two, three shinies that would hurt a little for when I feel like riskbreaking. And I'm a poor sod compared to the people that did actual effort to make ISK.

I don't mind loss (as stated above without the "pain" of losing there's no glory in winning), I do mind being dumb. So if I lose because I did something stupid or fcked up I'll be pissed, but not because of the loss itself. If I lost because it was a) outside my control or b) went "what the heck, lets see where this goes" then I don't care at all.