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Lo-Tech Inventory System?

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Catain Tsuruomo
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-01-06 13:14:49 UTC
All this fantastic tech around us, and some items don't "stack"? I get the reality of it... you don't want a pile of drones in some dusty corner, you tug on a fin and the rest all come tumbling down on you. But I'm pretty sure we'd be looking at a computer screen, not actually wandering around in the cargo hold every time we want to find an item.

Or am I missing something?


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Wacktopia
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-01-06 13:16:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Wacktopia
Catain Tsuruomo wrote:
All this fantastic tech around us, and some items don't "stack"? I get the reality of it... you don't want a pile of drones in some dusty corner, you tug on a fin and the rest all come tumbling down on you. But I'm pretty sure we'd be looking at a computer screen, not actually wandering around in the cargo hold every time we want to find an item.

Or am I missing something?


Shocked


Assuming you're asking up-front why some items are not stacking, please check;

- Are the items repackaged? (right-click > repackage). Unpackaged items do not stack

- Are they damaged / used? Things like laser crystals get "used" and then cannot be stacked

- Are they exactly the same 'type'? For example T1 and T2 items don't stack, likewise named/meta items.

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Catain Tsuruomo
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-01-06 13:22:40 UTC
The repackaging info: awesome.

The post was generally sarcasm, though. Any item on a screen should show a total, packaged or not (imho).

Thanks!

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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#4 - 2015-01-06 13:39:23 UTC
Catain Tsuruomo wrote:
The repackaging info: awesome.

The post was generally sarcasm, though. Any item on a screen should show a total, packaged or not (imho).

Thanks!

There is something to be said for the idea of knowing you have (for example) a hundred 3.2 litre smallblock V8 engines in stock - but it's also worth knowing that 80 are in pristine factory condition and that the other 20 have been used - of course it would also be worth knowing that three of them are fire damaged, four have done two-hundred-thousand miles and the other fourteen have only been run in but...
Catain Tsuruomo
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-01-06 13:56:17 UTC
Jacob Holland wrote:

There is something to be said for the idea of knowing you have (for example) a hundred 3.2 litre smallblock V8 engines in stock - but it's also worth knowing that 80 are in pristine factory condition and that the other 20 have been used - of course it would also be worth knowing that three of them are fire damaged, four have done two-hundred-thousand miles and...

I absolutely get that. It would still be fewer lines than listing each engine individually.

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Julius Rigel
#6 - 2015-01-06 14:02:29 UTC
Catain Tsuruomo wrote:
Any item on a screen should show a total, packaged or not (imho).

That's like saying family members should stack. Or cars. Cars is a more graspable analogy: If you had an interface for all the cars in your family, would you want it to just say "there are 3 cars in your garage" when one is the family SUV, another is your daughter's... pink, two-seat sports car, and the third is your uncle's rusty old truck? You would end up "undocking" one at random, and trying to drive the five little ones to the cinema in the barbie cruiser and having to stuff two and a half of them in the trunk...

The technical explanation is just that: Each "unpackaged" item is considered unique, and this is necessary so that the game can keep track of what ship is fitted with which modules etc.. If this weren't the case, then you could end up having two Megathrons in your hangar, but the game wouldn't know which one was fitted with what, or whether they both had 23.7% hull damage, and so on. Works the same for items. One T2 afterburner could have lots of heat damage, while the other had none, and the game would not be able to determine which one you were trying to repair.

Just imagine if everyone you knew was named "Bob", and you were only ever allowed to identify them as "Bob" - not even "the Bob with long black hair", or "Bob who was here an hour ago" - simply "Bob". It would be chaos. Nobody would know who you were talking to, or about.

That's why only identical items can be stacked, and only repackaged items are identical.
Marcus Gord
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-01-06 14:15:50 UTC
Julius Rigel wrote:

That's like saying family members should stack..


Caldari family members stack for easy storage and transport.

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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#8 - 2015-01-06 14:19:36 UTC
Marcus Gord wrote:
Julius Rigel wrote:

That's like saying family members should stack..


Caldari family members stack for easy storage and transport.

While Gallente family members only stack on occasion
Julius Rigel
#9 - 2015-01-06 14:31:36 UTC
Ruskarn Andedare wrote:
Marcus Gord wrote:
Caldari family members stack for easy storage and transport.

While Gallente family members only stack on occasion

Amarr family members only stack on Sundays?
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#10 - 2015-01-06 14:36:31 UTC
Julius Rigel wrote:
Catain Tsuruomo wrote:
Any item on a screen should show a total, packaged or not (imho).

That's like saying family members should stack. Or cars. Cars is a more graspable analogy: If you had an interface for all the cars in your family, would you want it to just say "there are 3 cars in your garage" when one is the family SUV, another is your daughter's... pink, two-seat sports car, and the third is your uncle's rusty old truck? You would end up "undocking" one at random, and trying to drive the five little ones to the cinema in the barbie cruiser and having to stuff two and a half of them in the trunk...

The technical explanation is just that: Each "unpackaged" item is considered unique, and this is necessary so that the game can keep track of what ship is fitted with which modules etc.. If this weren't the case, then you could end up having two Megathrons in your hangar, but the game wouldn't know which one was fitted with what, or whether they both had 23.7% hull damage, and so on. Works the same for items. One T2 afterburner could have lots of heat damage, while the other had none, and the game would not be able to determine which one you were trying to repair.

Just imagine if everyone you knew was named "Bob", and you were only ever allowed to identify them as "Bob" - not even "the Bob with long black hair", or "Bob who was here an hour ago" - simply "Bob". It would be chaos. Nobody would know who you were talking to, or about.

That's why only identical items can be stacked, and only repackaged items are identical.

I prefer Jacob Holland's analogy since he's talking about the same items with different parameters.

I do agree that assembling/repackaging items is a bit lame, all pristine items should behave like packaged items imo. Next to that it would be nice if the background of an item would become red when it's damaged, the more damaged it is, the more intense its red background is. This way you can easily see what items are damaged (Crystals are also damaged) and need repairing or needs to be replaced soon.

OP, don't forget you can search items by name which can save you some scrolling.

View real-time damage statistics in-game

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Mizhir
TOP DAMAGE Ltd.
WE FORM V0LTA
#11 - 2015-01-06 16:41:42 UTC
Julius Rigel wrote:
Ruskarn Andedare wrote:
Marcus Gord wrote:
Caldari family members stack for easy storage and transport.

While Gallente family members only stack on occasion

Amarr family members only stack on Sundays?


Minmatar family members rely on duct tape for stacks

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Quanah Comanche
#12 - 2015-01-06 17:00:32 UTC
Catain Tsuruomo wrote:
The repackaging info: awesome.

The post was generally sarcasm, though. Any item on a screen should show a total, packaged or not (imho).

Thanks!



Fixed
Ryuu Towryk
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2015-01-06 17:12:06 UTC
WTB: AE System for Eve

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