Ships & Modules

Here is approximatively what you should be aiming for lvl 3 missions: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/64804-Lv3-Mission-Drake.html. Forget about the half-fit raven, also npcs that run away from you should not be an issue with a propulsion mod and long range missiles.

Then, when you feel you can switch to level 4s, you have grossly two pathes: first, you may aim for a tengu and specialize a bit in cruiser size weaponry. Or, if you want to fly a battleship, you can continue training for your raven, and head later for either a golem (tech 2 battleship) or rather a faction one like navy raven, and ultimately rattlesnake, which needs good drone skills.

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Thank you for your replies Capsuleers Tsukino Stareine and Tung Yoggi.

Tung Yoggi - I looked at that page and that is a good fit, I will try and implify it to run with Guristas in mind, and I want to stay away from small ships, so the Golem is my goal at the moment. hopefully in about 150 days I will be able to fly it with a half decent fit.

Tsukino Stareine - I thought that, I am currently training my Micro Jump Drives so I can use the Medium and Large versions, but I only have access to afterburners, and they don't make much of a difference (20-35 addition metres per second..)..

I actually have Level 3 and 4's across the board for missiles as of tonight.. I was lucky enough to start with all 3 of the Cerebral Implants, I was in a Raven by the end of my first day in New Eden, my base stats as of now are in the High 40's, they finish in the next few hours, then I'm at high/mid 30's for 7 more days, most of the people I was flying with the other day thought it was cool that I was already where I am, all skills are focused on Missiles, and Shields, everything else is a minimum barring necessary ship skills.

And I know it isn't how the game is played, but I needed it for some of the missions where the enemy is out of range and the Cruise Missiles could hit them no matter what, Drake is my focus until next week, but like I said, I would like to have my fits ready to go, or at least and idea of what to buy.

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Don't forget there is a gap between "I can sit on this ship" and "I can fly it efficiently".

Also, for most modules in Eve, that is including afterburners and missiles, there is a skill to fit and use it (for instance "heavy missiles", "afterburner") but also, and more importantly many skills to support their use.

For instance, as it has been said, missiles have skills supporting explosion velocity, radius, flight time, missiles speed, raw damage. Heavy missiles, with support skills at 4, should be hitting at around 60k i believe.
Same for the afterburner, the added speed is not much until you train acceleration control, which is a support skill modifying the speed bonus.

So, once again, you may use quickly afterburner or heavy / cruise missiles, but it will take a lot more time before you can actually use them efficiently. Like Tsukino said, don't rush too much, train your missile support skills (all of them at 3-4), as well as afterburner skills, and no mission npc will be able to stay away from your range.

While you train support skills, you can start thinking about your next loadout for your raven. Feel free to ask agin here for fittings when you've reached a higher amount of skillpoints.

Have fun.

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atomic killer - My Raven held up in a Lvl 4 mission last night being used as the Aggression bait for the NPC's, and my shield never went below 72% on Passive fit, worked well, also I cannot use the Gila as it is a pirate ship, and I am an Ishukone pilot, I will soon be moving onto an Eagle as my new friends recommended might suit me a bit better.

Unfortunately this means a Golem will not be my goal.. Which is a shame, but hopefully they will release an Ishukone version or something of the like.

And yes, currently thought my Drone Training is being stalled for my Cruiser and other things related to the Eagle train, I should be able to get a fully T2 ship in 54 days (Including the Ship) based off current skills and training times.

I can't use EveMon, I'm on a MacBook Pro, well.. At least I can't find a version for Apple.. I use PYFA for fitting help.

I also refuse to fly a Gallente Ship of any kind, no matter how good it is.

I will train up for those skills though once I reach the Eagle at 100% they are the same ones my new Russian friends recommended, although they said all Level 5, but obviously that is just the end game, haha!

Tung Yoggi - I know this.. Did no one read the original post? I want tips so I can have it ready when I can fly it properly!

I also know about the support skills, when I said all skills in Missiles and Shields, I meant on all support skills to, as Rapid Launch, Bombardment, all that jazz, I am not stupid, I am aware of how skills work better with other skills, hence why most of my Shield and Missile, and now Hybrids, are all Level 3/4. It is what I have used all my SP on bar the SP to get from Frigate to Lvl 1 Battleship, which is as far as I am going till I get them all to Level 5.

And once again to the fitting question, this is so I know what the train for, EVE is to big to be a bubble, you have to be a knife and pick your target and go for it, not do everything and hope to be as good as the specialists, hence why I am so focused in the combat Shield tanking role, so I can focus points.

Tsukino Stareine - Yeah I realised that when I logged in I was using a Deadspace mod I was given, it was for the small ship, haha! My mistake!

And yeah, i think I was going 322KM/S last night!

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I like the role-play, but I will stop it while in forums at least..

And yeah, I realise that, but I wanna play Loyalist, all Caldari, all the background and stuff, and I am joining in FW soon, so yeah, I don't like games where you can say be Undead but use a Paladins weapons and stuff like that, I like sticking to the fluff if that makes sense, and to me it will be more of an experience, because I will have to learn to get around things I can't use, plus, when was a game ever fun when everyone uses 1 of the what, 20-25 pirate ships fun in a universe were there is over a hundred ships? I like it, think it adds some depth to the game, so yeah!

Also I like that fit, I will try it out tonight when I get home, should be able to fit most of that stuff bar the Drones and Launchers but I will have a look at that, thanks man!

Small question with Drones, why does everyone use Hobbgoblins? Aren't they the slowest and only deal Thermal damage? Or am I missing something?

Haha! Fair enough, I have just been using Hornets

That makes a lot of sense then, thanks for pointing that one out to me, I normally stick to Guristas so that is all they have KINETIC as a main damage type, so that is why I used my Hornets, I will look into that, thanks again! Fly safe!

I've been meaning to update this; finally got around to it. Best drones to use against different NPC factions in spreadsheet form.

Blue is best, followed by green, followed by yellow, followed by red. Don't look at sheet 1; that used the old drone damage multipliers and is no longer valid. The popularity of Hobgoblins should be obvious: they're almost always green and only drop to yellow for Angels (and likewise only rise to blue for mercs). Caldari drones remain the best against Guristas and Serpentis (and yes, this was always the case, and no, it doesn't include the Phi Overseer). Amarr drones are finally good against BR/Sansha/drones but the margin is pretty small. Angel frigates are still... weird.

1+ man!

Thanks mate, I love this game and yeah, I love the fact that I will have limits and weaknesses are, but means I will also know my strengths, makes me wanna push harder and all that, I have found a a guy in game I have been flying with who is into the Role-play and that too, no Gallente or Minmatar, just Amarr and Caldari (Seeing as they are allies) and it is awesome to fly with him, he covers my weaknesses and I cover his, it works great in Level 3 missions and that!

Fly safe mate!