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New tier of marauders?
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Kolya Medz
Kolya Inc.
#1 - 2011-12-17 05:05:43 UTC
These would not be worse or better than existing marauders, they would simply fill a different niche.

All ships would follow existing marauder standards: 4 hardpoints and a 100% damage role bonus/ tractor beam bonus, crappy sensors, same resists, ect..

Khanid Torp Abbadon: (Does NOT fill same niche as Golem, notice the missing range bonus)

7.5% armor rep bonus (maybe, just maybe a resist bonus instead :Big smile might be pushing it tho lol)
5% explosion velocity bonus
7.5% target painter bonus
5% cap recharge bonus

Roden Drone Hyperion: Notice the lack of gun damage bonus. It's 4 turrets would be unbonused(other than the 100% hybrid turret bonus.)

10% bonus to drone damage/hit points
10% web bonus (maybe something else less useless here)
7.5% armor rep
7.5% drone MWD speed (or range?)

Ishikone Hybrid Rokh: would give Caldari gunboat pilots something decent battleship sized to train for, since both their faction battleships are missile boats.

7.5% shield boost bonus
10% hybrid turret range
5% hybrid turret damage
7.5% target painter (maybe web, could be helpful with blaster fits)

Core Complexions Arty Maelstrom: Vargur needs serious fitting mods for arty, its really an autocannon ship. This new ship would be much slower and have a slightly bigger sig than the vargur

7.5% shield boost bonus
5% bonus Large projectile turret damage (or rof, whichever is better for arty)
10% large projectile falloff bonus
7.5% bonus to large projectile tracking (maybe range, web or target painter bonus instead, since it seems to be pushing into vargur territory a bit.)



Good idea? Horrible idea? Thoughts? Comments?
tankus2
HeartVenom Inc.
#2 - 2011-12-17 05:10:13 UTC
how about a battleship that isn't a marauder mk 1.125? I mean, having a t2 battleship that screams pvp at the top of its lungs would be awesome, and give a t2 version of third tier battleships.

Perhaps some kind of ewar battleship that isn't blackops?

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Kolya Medz
Kolya Inc.
#3 - 2011-12-17 05:13:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Kolya Medz
tankus2 wrote:
how about a battleship that isn't a marauder mk 1.125? I mean, having a t2 battleship that screams pvp at the top of its lungs would be awesome, and give a t2 version of third tier battleships.

Perhaps some kind of ewar battleship that isn't blackops?




The marauder class was never intended for PVP, which is why their sensors are nerfed so hard. I'm all for another class of tech II battleships built for pvp tho. New ewar battleships would be freakin awesome.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2011-12-17 05:24:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Kolya Medz wrote:
Roden Drone Hyperion: Notice the lack of gun damage bonus. It's 4 turrets would be unbonused(other than the 100% hybrid turret cruise missile bonus.)
Fixed. It's a Roden ship, after all… Blink


…aside from that: why do we need more Marauders? They'd either be better than the old ones in some way (making an old ship obsolete) or worse (making the new one obsolete), and not really add anything. If you want more T2 BS, think up a new role for them.
Kolya Medz
Kolya Inc.
#5 - 2011-12-17 05:27:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Kolya Medz
Giving it a cruise missile bonus would turn it into an armor tanked scorpion lol. Also, the manufacturing corp doesn't really matter, I just chose Roden because I like their colours lol
Goose99
#6 - 2011-12-17 05:44:52 UTC
Kronos is already obsolete. Drone marauder is much needed. The others, not so much.
Kolya Medz
Kolya Inc.
#7 - 2011-12-17 05:47:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Kolya Medz
Tippia wrote:
Kolya Medz wrote:
Roden Drone Hyperion: Notice the lack of gun damage bonus. It's 4 turrets would be unbonused(other than the 100% hybrid turret cruise missile bonus.)
Fixed. It's a Roden ship, after all… Blink


…aside from that: why do we need more Marauders? They'd either be better than the old ones in some way (making an old ship obsolete) or worse (making the new one obsolete), and not really add anything. If you want more T2 BS, think up a new role for them.



Giving it a cruise missile bonus would turn it into an armor tanked scorpion lol. Also, the manufacturing corp doesn't really matter, I just chose Roden because I like their colours lol


The same reason we ''needed'' tier 3 battlecruisers lol. The idea is to make these marauders equal to the old ones in terms of effectiveness at their role, however they fill a different niche: Guns instead of missles, drones instead of guns, ect... They would be better at some tasks than the old ones while worse at others.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#8 - 2011-12-17 09:50:46 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Kolya Medz wrote:
Roden Drone Hyperion: Notice the lack of gun damage bonus. It's 4 turrets would be unbonused(other than the 100% hybrid turret cruise missile bonus.)
Fixed. It's a Roden ship, after all… Blink


…aside from that: why do we need more Marauders? They'd either be better than the old ones in some way (making an old ship obsolete) or worse (making the new one obsolete), and not really add anything. If you want more T2 BS, think up a new role for them.

I'd rather have a Creodron marauder, to tell the truth.

The reason to have 2 marauders is so we can have different ships for different weapons. Caldari lack a T2 railboat in the BS size class, and for Gallente you only get drones on the Black Ops.

I think a second black ops might also be nice for the same reason. I think it would be interesting if those were based on the tier 3 BCs. A glass cannon would certainly fit the role.
Kolya Medz
Kolya Inc.
#9 - 2011-12-18 21:26:20 UTC
bump
Aglais
Ice-Storm
#10 - 2011-12-19 01:08:23 UTC
I think it'd be a good idea to introduce a second set of marauders with this sort of goal in mind. Would end up being a little bit like HACs then, most likely.