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New atmospheric environment effects for asteroid belts.

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Quintessen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-01-02 22:16:31 UTC
With max settings, the effects just look off -- especially the close ones. They objects don't feel like they are correctly lit.

I would also recommend varying the sizes of the objects a bit more and allowing them to be spaced further apart and reducing somewhat the overall number of them.
Malou Hashur
Enterprise Holdings
#22 - 2015-01-02 22:38:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Malou Hashur
CCP Mannapi wrote:

They can be disabled in the Display & Graphics menu under Effects > Asteroid Environments.


Unchecking the option mentioned above does not disable the particle rocks. The only way to do it is to reduce the shader quality to low which makes everything else look like cr4p.

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Aurelius Valentius
Valentius Corporation
Valentius Corporation Alliance
#23 - 2015-01-03 00:44:50 UTC
DX9

Looks nice, finally CCP did something with effects that didn't shoot my GPU in the head and leave it for dead (thinking mission clouds).

+1 for both ice and rocks.

*we need a giant space slug though for the full effect* Blink
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#24 - 2015-01-03 00:56:01 UTC
Malou Hashur wrote:
CCP Mannapi wrote:

They can be disabled in the Display & Graphics menu under Effects > Asteroid Environments.


Unchecking the option mentioned above does not disable the particle rocks. The only way to do it is to reduce the shader quality to low which makes everything else look like cr4p.


u probably will have to leave grid and come back to make the changes work (or restart client)

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#25 - 2015-01-03 01:40:43 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
Malou Hashur wrote:
CCP Mannapi wrote:

They can be disabled in the Display & Graphics menu under Effects > Asteroid Environments.


Unchecking the option mentioned above does not disable the particle rocks. The only way to do it is to reduce the shader quality to low which makes everything else look like cr4p.


u probably will have to leave grid and come back to make the changes work (or restart client)

^This. Any setting change may well require warping to a new belt to see.

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#26 - 2015-01-03 01:42:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
CCP Mannapi wrote:
The Fog gives a sense of distance and is available for High shader quality.
The God rays are similar to the effect visible during incursions and is available for High shader quality.

Great - can't wait! Any idea when you guys are going to start supporting OSX 10.10 and the new Radeon cards so we Mac users can start seeing some of the new improvements? Specifically:

• OS X Yosemite 10.10.1
• AMD Radeon R9 M290X and M295X

After recently upgrading my Mac I was somewhat disappointed to learn that I'm still limited to a "Medium" shader setting.

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Rhavas
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#27 - 2015-01-03 04:07:17 UTC
Took a quick tour tonight. Posted a few pics here:
http://interstellarprivateer.wordpress.com/2015/01/02/sisi-proteus-asteroid-effects/

I like the effects. These were shot with all effects on except for camera shake and Anti-Aliasing.
Win 7, 8GB RAM, AMD Radeon 6800/1GB

I think you really missed an opportunity to dress up the Shattered planets! Would be great if you could do this around them as well. It would really add to the feel.

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Maraner
The Executioners
Capital Punishment.
#28 - 2015-01-03 10:22:17 UTC
Nice work CCP. Had a look and love it. Did not notice any real frame rate drop.

New gas giants next please?
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#29 - 2015-01-03 21:46:06 UTC
It's my impression or the debris fields at the ice belts are made of dark, rocky bodies? Shouldn't they be made of white stuff, like small chunks of ice?
Liner Xiandra
Sparks Inc
#30 - 2015-01-04 13:05:22 UTC
Rhavas wrote:

I think you really missed an opportunity to dress up the Shattered planets! Would be great if you could do this around them as well. It would really add to the feel.


This so much
Arla Sarain
#31 - 2015-01-04 23:13:41 UTC
My usual settings are
No post processing
Medium shader

DX9 (DX11 would cause me to crash frequently)
GT650m (laptop card, low performance expected)

Asteroids would typically plunge my FPS.

1) At first I had the rays and asteroid env. on.
This time my FPS was pretty solid and didn't go below 40, which was surprising considering how much "stuff" was on my screen.

2)Putting everything on High would reduce the FPS to 23~40.

3) Rays+Asteroid Environment
Medium shader Low post processing GPU particles (for what its worth)
Very pleasant performance. 71 FPS almost constant. Looks relatively pretty, considering low post processing and medium shader.

Common issue is hitching when turning camera.


DX11
Doesn't seem to crash anymore
1) Same medium shader and low post processing - roughly same 70 FPS
2) High post processing about 60 FPS
3) High shader, High post processing, GPU particles, 41 FPS.

More importantly - no hitching! Frames roll smoothly.
Murkar Omaristos
The Alabaster Albatross
Unreasonable Bastards
#32 - 2015-01-05 06:05:15 UTC
Liner Xiandra wrote:
Rhavas wrote:

I think you really missed an opportunity to dress up the Shattered planets! Would be great if you could do this around them as well. It would really add to the feel.


This so much


+1!
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#33 - 2015-01-05 10:42:16 UTC
Liner Xiandra wrote:
Rhavas wrote:

I think you really missed an opportunity to dress up the Shattered planets! Would be great if you could do this around them as well. It would really add to the feel.


This so much


+1

Those new shattered planets could do with this type of facelift. Probably still going to happen. Love the new effects and the new Exequror hull effects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oES6FMMGb0Y#t=164 Daegarn posted this cool video.

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#34 - 2015-01-05 19:26:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent Athena
I just tested it again with the latest Sisi build. I still get 30 fps away from the belt, 1.7 in the belt.

CCP Mannapi, in a previous post you said that 35-40 seemed a bit low, and seemed to be concerned about it. If you are concerned with 35-40, how do you feel about 1.7 ? And, more importantly, what will you do about it?

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#35 - 2015-01-06 02:37:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
CCP Mannapi wrote:
The effect is comprised of 3 components: God rays, fog and particle rocks.
The Fog gives a sense of distance and is available for High shader quality.
The God rays are similar to the effect visible during incursions and is available for High shader quality.

My first visit to an asteroid field resulting in an immediate freeze of the client (disabling multithreaded OpenGL fixed it for subsequent visits). I'm still limited to a "Medium" shader setting, so I'm going on the assumption that the "Asteroid Environments" setting comprises both fog and particle rocks" and that "Light Rays" are god rays since I only got the small chunks of rocks.

Frame rate was hovering around 58-60 FPS with all graphics options set to High ("Medium" shader). Can you expand on why I'd still be limited to a "Medium" shader setting with an AMD Radeon R9 M295X? Thanks.

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T''pol
United Caldari Navy
United Caldari Space Command.
#36 - 2015-01-06 08:45:19 UTC  |  Edited by: T''pol
I've tested asteroid belts with light rays effects on and here are the results:
test case 1:
Station your ship (speed = 0) before ast. field and point camera through belt onto sun. Move camera around
Results:
Nice effects, Fps within acceptable rate 50-60.

test case 2:
From your point in space (test case1) move your ship parallel to ast. field pointing camera onto sun. Move camera around.
Results:
Nice effects still present. Fps drops to 30(still acceptable). Movement of camera and ship appear to be freezing or have strange lag.
I think there is some blocking calculation of shaders or other stuff going on that results in freezing movments.
PS: i7, 8gb Ram, Nvidia 450gts

Status update: after new patches test case 2 does not seem to have performance issue. Fps still drops to 30 but thats ok
BUS1NESSMAN
MMMONSTER ENERGY
#37 - 2015-01-06 09:14:01 UTC
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#38 - 2015-01-06 17:56:25 UTC
Just did the mass test. Still just as bad for me: 1.7 FPS in a belt. For comparison, during the PvP part of the test I get 8 FPS zoomed out, and 4 zoomed in. In clear space with just a station and maybe a ship or three, I get 30.

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#39 - 2015-01-11 01:26:29 UTC
Any progress on the lack of a "High" shader setting for Mac users?

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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#40 - 2015-01-11 05:16:37 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Just did the mass test. Still just as bad for me: 1.7 FPS in a belt. For comparison, during the PvP part of the test I get 8 FPS zoomed out, and 4 zoomed in. In clear space with just a station and maybe a ship or three, I get 30.

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