Warfare & Tactics

So, what I've got here so far is lots of advice for moving in and out of that station safely, some gratuitous "HTFU" and "live in lowsec," and a couple of bait myrm killmails (They lose those all the time that's the point).

I have not lost a ship to these guys in months. I don't go to Villore at peak hours; If I do go there it's with a long range DPS ship to poke them for fun. Getting other people to go after these guys, aside from the fact that Galmil has tunnel vision for killing T1 frigs and dessies in lowsec, is that it simply requires a disproportionate effort. A massive amount of organization and strategy is required to bait them off station and actually entice them to undock shinies and then drop enough tackle, logi, and DPS on them to pick up those faction BS killmails whilst preventing them from escaping and not losing too many ships of your own.

The point is not that this tactic can be avoided. The point is that they are able to farm killmails off of new players and veteran players getting lazy while assuming a level of risk to themselves that is disproportionate to the reward. And it does not make sense in the context of the faction warfare arena for anyone to be able to operate freely out of their enemy's militia station. It doesn't make sense, and it makes the game less interesting than if they were incentivized to take a bit more risk with their 2B ISK faction BS.

Faction Navy doesn't need a buff, even in 0.5. I have no problem with enemy militia raiding into enemy Hi-Sec and harassing 0.5 systems, which are by definition supposed to be less secure anyway. My only issue is with the huge advantage and potential for risk-averse kill farming that comes with being able to live inside an enemy militia station in Hi-Sec. This game DOES NOT need more risk-averse PvP.

And I will live in Lo-Sec when your markets don't suck and your gates aren't constantly camped by pirate blobs and fighter-assisted instalockers. I'm working on having enough ships docked up around Lo-Sec to be able to quickly form up for fleet doctrines; I have no interest in living there.

and in return for us paying out the ass to fix our sec status to rescue you you from some station camper which you chose to be camped in by in your highsec lvl 4 mission running boat, what do we recieve.

Just like the title says. Anyone who has visited Villore recently should be well aware of this problem. To throw in some immediate disclaimers for the "HTFU" parrots - I have no issue with hi-sec station gaming or roaming by WT's except in the case of militia stations which should by definition deny docking rights to the enemy. The fact that people can dock a large and diverse fleet in the opposing militia's stations and use it as a base of operations is patently illogical.

Furthermore, this borderline exploit seriously undermines any notion of risk vs. reward which I've been told is a cornerstone of the EVE universe. Baiting the enemy to aggress and then being able to respond with enough force to destroy ships with 50-100k ehp inside 60 seconds with the added ability to hold fire and hide in station until they once again feel safe to recommence farming kills on pods and t1 frigs - this task requires an outsized and disproportionate commitment of time and effort to counter and unless you achieve complete surprise the bad guys can just hide in YOUR OWN militia station indefinitely. Ontop of this they can use a network of CONCORD protected neutral alts to gather intel and set up safes/tacticals without exposing those to any risk short of a hastily assembled suicide gank.

Risk free kill farming should not be subsidized in EVE. Fix this, make these guys have to risk their shinies to get kills. Militia stations need to be off limits to pilots of the opposing empires.

Hurrrr durrrrrr durrrrrr.

Hay you this corps only big enough for one forum warrior ......... ♥ ya really jules

Id be all for removing the navy and stop docking in militia stations but all other stations should be ok