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De-Minmatarization: First Tower Constructed and Operational

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Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#101 - 2015-01-05 03:24:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Aldrith Shutaq
Stop now or I will blow you both up with Mizzles.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu

Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#102 - 2015-01-05 03:27:19 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
If someone else was to take over where you left off and destroy the tower, would Pyre assist them?


Considering the general reaction here, I am quite happy to let people who most assuredly know better what the course of action here should be actually take that action. I obviously cannot be trusted apparently.

I take some responsibility for all of this happening the way it did. I was the one who searched Devoid, following up on clues, scouting the area, and provided the Intel to inform our plan of attack. I did it because I despise Nauplius. What he is doing. I personally don't care overly much about the people he is experimenting on, but I would rather they were in the Republic's hands then his. Or mine for that matter, I don't have the facilities or inclination to house however many people he's hoarding.

If any of you have the ships and the genitals to kick that sick man's teeth in again, as he so desperately seems to want, have at. Your welcome for putting it in the vulnerable state it is in. I hope you get what you seek out of this mess.

If you're gonna Come For Your People, there are few better opportunities than this one.

Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
Stop now or I will blow you both up with mizzles.


Obligatory, and this is why the Empire must be destroyed.
Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#103 - 2015-01-05 04:35:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Jennifer Maxwell
My, but some of you love hearing yourself talk.

If PYRE wishes, I, on behalf of the Crimson Serpent Syndicate, am willing to hire some if not all of these people, for an agreeable amount of ISK, of which will be used to cover such things as transportation, medical treatment, possible psychiatric treatment, and unforeseen expenses pertaining to the delivery of these expatriates to a Syndicate owned world or corporate office.

I am willing to offer them contracts wherein they can make a life for themselves. I can assure that if they work hard and fair, they will be treated fairly and be paid a regular wage comparable to other expatriates of their general skill level within the State. As soon as they work off their debt, they shall be free to do as they please, be that returning to the Republic, staying employed by the Syndicate, or whatever else their hearts can desire and wallets can afford.

Everybody wins.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#104 - 2015-01-05 05:11:14 UTC
Now that PYRE apparently decided to sit out of the action, who is taking charge of this clusterfuck?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Eojek
Starlight Moly
#105 - 2015-01-05 06:48:02 UTC
Just a note:

What you intend on doing to whatever poor souls you have decided to... improve upon ... is very much in line with what Kuvakei wanted to do to every one of us.

We all know how that went.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#106 - 2015-01-05 07:24:29 UTC
Save the slaves, THEN bicker about what to do with slaves, why don't you?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Deceiver's Echo
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#107 - 2015-01-05 07:45:55 UTC
Eojek
>>Kuvakei's goals were pure. His methods were cruel. Purity does not always come from fire. In fact, more often than not, it is destroyed by the flames. Sometimes such fire creates a harder edge. The hotter the flame, the sharper that edge becomes.

>>The Empires feared what Kuvakei could become. Do I blame them? No. A man with the will to make his dreams reality has the potential to become more than a man, non?
>>Look at what is before you. A man, hoping to bring his dream into reality. The question is this; if you reduce him to ash, will he rise up stronger?

>>This is a lesson repeated in New Eden far too many times. It is a lesson of human nature. It is a lesson we all should learn.
>>It is a lesson the Amarr seem to forget, and a lesson they ignore in their own teachings.
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#108 - 2015-01-05 09:13:08 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Of course, raising to the childish bait of Mintor was a mistake to begin with...


Damn. Ow.

It certainly wasn't intended as bait, and I am not sure how I feel about you referring to me as childish, though it certainly isn't the worst insult I've received.... As an unintended side-effect you did provide some amusement, however.

I ask you why you think people are chest-beating and the first line of your reply is ...."I am fairly sure I've already gathered more Pyre kills than losses both in isk and numbers to them already..." I don't know if it was intended to answer the question with boasting but it did make me laugh never-the-less.

With them passing this responsibility onto the larger community, perhaps even along to those who pretend to know better, I cannot say I am disappointed. It was the right thing to do; honestly I wasn't sure what interest PY-RE had in it to begin with. But maybe now we can see what merit this whole charade even has before PIE or someone else takes the reigns.

-Eran
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#109 - 2015-01-05 09:14:03 UTC
So, who's going to kick the tower? Can I join?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Erica Dusette
Division 13
#110 - 2015-01-05 10:53:00 UTC
Congratulations on your new tower, Mr Nauplius.

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#111 - 2015-01-05 16:41:09 UTC
How trite.

My offer to assist in whatever capacity I can still stands, regardless of whom is overseeing whatever operation takes place.

I am dismayed that we can't get over ourselves long enough to assist others in need, even against a supposedly common enemy. My concern is for the "test subjects" as stated before; as such, I will work with whomever I need to in order to bring them aid.

My own mistrust and hostility be damned, there are more important matters to attend to.





Something to ponder:

If I work with someone to accomplish a goal and that someone betrays my trust and takes advantage of these people rather than lends them aid then I will do all that I can to rectify the situation. Even if I fail and these people are no better off than they were prior, at least I tried to do something rather than dissuade any action because I couldn't get over myself long enough to at least try.

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."

Jukko Riis
Doomheim
#112 - 2015-01-05 17:44:38 UTC
Liam Antolliere wrote:
How trite.

My offer to assist in whatever capacity I can still stands, regardless of whom is overseeing whatever operation takes place.

I am dismayed that we can't get over ourselves long enough to assist others in need, even against a supposedly common enemy. My concern is for the "test subjects" as stated before; as such, I will work with whomever I need to in order to bring them aid.

My own mistrust and hostility be damned, there are more important matters to attend to.


Something to ponder:

If I work with someone to accomplish a goal and that someone betrays my trust and takes advantage of these people rather than lends them aid then I will do all that I can to rectify the situation. Even if I fail and these people are no better off than they were prior, at least I tried to do something rather than dissuade any action because I couldn't get over myself long enough to at least try.






While normally I'd be looking to shoot missiles at Mssr. Antolliere, in this instance, I am in complete agreement.

BRCE's offer for assistance stands; including our offer of housing and employment.

Let me know where, when and what is needed.


Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#113 - 2015-01-05 18:41:54 UTC
Thank you to those that have offered. The survivors have already been recovered, however, and my staff are tending to them now.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#114 - 2015-01-05 19:53:06 UTC
I'm not going to claim to speak for Ushra'Khan in this matter, but I suspect most will agree with me when I thank and compliment Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris for finishing the job. While it is a pity that the survivors are in Imperial hands, it is better than many of the alternatives. I can just imagine what'd happen if they'd been handed to whichever Nation, Angel or Gurista that'd be getting their hands on them otherwise.

Well done, little kin.

Oh, and as I said before elsewhere, you remain welcome to come see things for yourself.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#115 - 2015-01-05 21:08:37 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
I'm not going to claim to speak for Ushra'Khan in this matter, but I suspect most will agree with me when I thank and compliment Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris for finishing the job. While it is a pity that the survivors are in Imperial hands, it is better than many of the alternatives. I can just imagine what'd happen if they'd been handed to whichever Nation, Angel or Gurista that'd be getting their hands on them otherwise.

Well done, little kin.

Oh, and as I said before elsewhere, you remain welcome to come see things for yourself.

They would likely have gone to Gradient, which is where we typically handed over our Republic POWs.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#116 - 2015-01-05 21:13:08 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
I'm not going to claim to speak for Ushra'Khan in this matter, but I suspect most will agree with me when I thank and compliment Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris for finishing the job. While it is a pity that the survivors are in Imperial hands, it is better than many of the alternatives. I can just imagine what'd happen if they'd been handed to whichever Nation, Angel or Gurista that'd be getting their hands on them otherwise.

Well done, little kin.

Oh, and as I said before elsewhere, you remain welcome to come see things for yourself.

They would likely have gone to Gradient, which is where we typically handed over our Republic POWs.


This was in fact precisely what I intended to do with them, had they come under my protection. I made this clear to my fellow PYRE members from the start.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums.  - CCP Falcon

I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim

Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#117 - 2015-01-05 21:50:49 UTC
You'll have to forgive us for doubting the word of an Angel entity flying with Sansha in a merc corp flying for the Amarrians with an outspoken grudge against the Republic, especially when rejecting multiple offers of humanitarian aid that would have achieved exactly the same goal.
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#118 - 2015-01-05 22:08:01 UTC
This just in: PYRE makes no sense and thusly no one trusts them. As it turns out, being consistent is advantageous to relations with others.

Well done Lt. Kernher.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu

Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#119 - 2015-01-05 22:13:14 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
You'll have to forgive us for doubting the word of an Angel entity flying with Sansha in a merc corp flying for the Amarrians with an outspoken grudge against the Republic, especially when rejecting multiple offers of humanitarian aid that would have achieved exactly the same goal.


I'll forgive you for that.

Nothing else though.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums.  - CCP Falcon

I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#120 - 2015-01-05 22:23:14 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
This just in: PYRE makes no sense and thusly no one trusts them. As it turns out, being consistent is advantageous to relations with others.

Well done Lt. Kernher.


Consistent is certainly a word that can be applied to PIE, yes.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.