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Drone Control Range

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-01-03 14:31:57 UTC
Greetings, NCQ&A dudes, and Happy New Year!


How the frack do I see my ship's drone control range???


I mean the updated value, wheniaminspace, that takes into account all my skillz and any mods that I have on me ship (e.g. drone link augmentors, drone control range augmentor rigs)???


Thanks!!!


- Gully

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Jake Peters
ICT World Bank
#2 - 2015-01-03 14:45:26 UTC
You can't unfortunately...not yet anyway in game, but you can either work it out manually or a really good way is to use this application called Python. I installed it just the other day and you put your API key in and copy your fit over from the game and it works out absolutely everything. :)

Python
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#3 - 2015-01-03 14:47:52 UTC
Warp to an asteroid belt at absurd range. Try to sic your drones on something out of range. The error message states your drone control range.
Memphis Baas
#4 - 2015-01-03 14:54:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Memphis Baas
I'm not sure if it's shown if you right-click on a drone and show info.

Ships usually don't give bonus to range, typically they give bonus to damage and/or speed.

The base range is 20 km.

You get 5 km for each level in the skill Drone Avionics. Typically people train it to 4 (so that's 20 km), and then later to 5.
You get 3 km for each level in Advanced Drone Avionics, which you should train to 4 after training Drones to 5 (so you can control 5 drones), so that's 12 km.

Each Drone Link Augmentor module extends the range by 20 km (24 km if it's tech 2).

So, 20 km unskilled, 40 km with Drone Avionics, 60 - 80 km on drone ships that have spare high slots for DLA's, and keep the 12 km that you get from Adv. Drone Avionics as a buffer range to give you time to recall your drones before they get too far (i.e. if you have to hit a target at 50 km, fit a Drone Link Augmentor to get 60 km, don't rely on Adv. Drone Avionics).

NOTE: Sentry drones are different; they sit by your ship, so if you want to snipe longer distances you need the modules that increase drone optimal range, rather than drone link augmentors.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-01-03 17:09:47 UTC
Thanks for replies y'all.

So yeah, it's confirmed there's no in-game readout (already tried right-click drones, Memphis, no bueno Sad).


Problem arises when I undock a ship I don't fly so often, or when I buy a pre-fit from a militia mate. Meaning ships with control range bonuses (e.g. Ishtar) or DLAs fitted, that increase my usual range.

So I'll just have to plug 'em into EFT on the fly.


Until Karkur fixes that, too!

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Elyan Mishi
Jadesoturi.
#6 - 2015-01-03 19:15:04 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:

NOTE: Sentry drones are different; they sit by your ship, so if you want to snipe longer distances you need the modules that increase drone optimal range, rather than drone link augmentors.

As far as I know, you still require drone control range for sentries even if they are sitting next to you. I haven't played around with sentries in the last couple of patches, but at least before you had to have your control range reach your targets and not just your optimal. Not aware of any changes to the mechanic in the last couple of patches.
Quanah Comanche
#7 - 2015-01-03 19:24:57 UTC
Drone Control Range = Distance from your ship to what you want the drones to attack.

Sentries included.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-01-03 19:41:10 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
NOTE: Sentry drones are different; they sit by your ship, so if you want to snipe longer distances you need the modules that increase drone optimal range, rather than drone link augmentors.


Sentries aren't different.
Drone control range is not the max range from your ship to the drones, it's the max range from your ship to the target.

Now you can do silly things with sentries. Let's say you've got a drone control range of 50km and the sentries have an optimal of 100km. If you put your ship 50km from the target and 50km from where you dropped the sentries, the drones can hit the target 100km away.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-01-03 21:10:45 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Memphis Baas wrote:
NOTE: Sentry drones are different; they sit by your ship, so if you want to snipe longer distances you need the modules that increase drone optimal range, rather than drone link augmentors.


Sentries aren't different.
Drone control range is not the max range from your ship to the drones, it's the max range from your ship to the target.

Now you can do silly things with sentries. Let's say you've got a drone control range of 50km and the sentries have an optimal of 100km. If you put your ship 50km from the target and 50km from where you dropped the sentries, the drones can hit the target 100km away.


Yep the other oddity is if your sentries are on aggressive they can happily auto target stuff outside your drone control range.
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2015-01-03 21:43:51 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:


Yep the other oddity is if your sentries are on aggressive they can happily auto target stuff outside your drone control range.


I don't believe this is correct. I use sentries all the time and my control range is about 84 km. I have my drones set on aggresive and I've never seen them engage targets outside that range even when I'm shooting at stuff out past 90 km. I could be wrong here but I'm fairly certain that I'm not.

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Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-01-03 22:36:31 UTC
ergherhdfgh wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:


Yep the other oddity is if your sentries are on aggressive they can happily auto target stuff outside your drone control range.


I don't believe this is correct. I use sentries all the time and my control range is about 84 km. I have my drones set on aggresive and I've never seen them engage targets outside that range even when I'm shooting at stuff out past 90 km. I could be wrong here but I'm fairly certain that I'm not.

Yeah drones don't engage outside drone control range on aggressive. That's how AFK miners get into trouble - rats spawn and aggress them outside their drone control range. Drones ignore them and since the rats have already aggressed the drones continue to ignored them while they close in and kill the mining barge. I don't see why sentries would behave any differently.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#12 - 2015-01-04 01:31:15 UTC
Drone Control Range = 20 km + Drone Avionics Skill * 5 km + Advanced Drone Avionics * 3 km + Bonuses From Drone Link Augmentors

I can confirm that drone control range is the distance from you to the target.

The only time drones will attack outside this range, is if the attack began inside this range, and the drones followed. Sentries however will go inactive when the range threshold is exceeded.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2015-01-04 01:54:05 UTC
some ships also have drone control range bonuses (ishtar is the only one i can think of).

But still the best way to check is to just target something far away and try to attack it. This sometimes is difficult as your drone control range can exceed your lock range.
Samuel Triptee
Battle Toad Brigade
Ribbit.
#14 - 2015-01-04 14:04:59 UTC
Another way to approach this is to have poor targeting skills and better drone skills. Then you can't target anything beyond your drone range... hehehe

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Tiel Reynolds
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-01-04 16:47:46 UTC
Re: Sentry Drone optimal range

I am curious if the Omnidirectional Tracking unit is working properly. Warden IIs: In my drone bay utilizing the "show info" they read an optimal range of 97km. When I deploy them they read an optimal range of 60km. When I target something the drones will engage at 73km. When I activate my Omnis Speed and Range (1 each) the drone attitude doesn't change at all. They will not engage beyond the 73km range and according to the "attributes" the Tracking speed doesn't change. Is this a bug or an issue that I should submit?

I use 2 Sentry range rigs and 1 sentry damage rig

Im in a Rattlesnake
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2015-01-04 17:30:09 UTC
the whole show info thing for drones in bay and in space in relation to modules that affect them are borked.

Be content in knowing that they do indeed work after extensive testing by myself and thousands of other pilots.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2015-01-05 00:17:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Hasikan Miallok
ergherhdfgh wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:


Yep the other oddity is if your sentries are on aggressive they can happily auto target stuff outside your drone control range.


I don't believe this is correct. I use sentries all the time and my control range is about 84 km. I have my drones set on aggresive and I've never seen them engage targets outside that range even when I'm shooting at stuff out past 90 km. I could be wrong here but I'm fairly certain that I'm not.


Yah you are correct.

When I think about it - what they were doing was attacking things outside my target range but inside control range.

Tiel Reynolds wrote:
Re: Sentry Drone optimal range

I am curious if the Omnidirectional Tracking unit is working properly. Warden IIs: In my drone bay utilizing the "show info" they read an optimal range of 97km. When I deploy them they read an optimal range of 60km. When I target something the drones will engage at 73km. When I activate my Omnis Speed and Range (1 each) the drone attitude doesn't change at all. They will not engage beyond the 73km range and according to the "attributes" the Tracking speed doesn't change. Is this a bug or an issue that I should submit?

I use 2 Sentry range rigs and 1 sentry damage rig

Im in a Rattlesnake


Optimal range does not effect the distance the drones will engage at, it just effects what range they can do effective damage at.

Also note that the Sentry Damage Rig is suboptimal if you are using DDAs as it has a stacking penalty with any DDA fitted.