Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So you are trying to be smart but all you can say is there is one place to hide right now and that it is enough?

And i bet you, jump gates wasn't put there for the reasons you state. I am pretty sure jump gates was put into EVE as a means to divide this single shard MMO universe into smaller pieces so that computers could have a chance handle the load. Becoming a choke was a nice side benefit.

I do agree with you though, that this thread has a place in ideas/suggestions.

I posted a suggestion awhile back about no local and I think that you should have a command and conquer style radar installation in the 0.0 systems in order for the owners to enable it or use local if it's destroyed you should be able to have any number of ships sneaking into the system without them knowing. The current local system is massively easy to abuse, this is why it's so easy to get gate camps set up, this is why it's easy for blob fleets etc. to avoid each other and never have a conflict.

Information is power and CCP have handed it to everyone on a platter.

To answer many of your posts, in no particular order:

Yes, technically, it should be in F&I. IMO F&I gets little or no attention by the general forum public and hence I posted in GD. Even though I'd prefer the post remain in GD, I'm sure it will get moved to F&I to die among all the other forgotten posts there.

Thank you for all the positive feedback!

Jumpgates as chokepoints- "back in the day".... there were no jumpgates- players always warped into the system at the star. There was one way in. Jumpgates were added so that there were multiple locations to arrive at.

Quick jump mechanic I just thought of while writing this: what if Jump gates allow you to travel without using fuel? What if you could "lock on" to any celestial body, provided it was large enough and jump to that instead, with varying degrees of accuracy, only you would have to consume isotopes like carriers currently do? You could have a choice of using jump gates for the ease of use and convenience, or jump into a system and land at the star, a planet, or even a moon if your "navigational sensors" were sufficiently advanced (read: RIGS AND MODULES) and able to lock on to such a small mass. Skills could be implemented to improve navigational accuracy, fuel use etc. There could always be a chance of failure and you'd end up in a nearby system. Fleet jumps could scatter a 100 man fleet with 10-20% landing in the middle of a system, 5-10AU away from the intended celestial object, or even in another system if the navigation was poor enough.

Heck, imagine being able to hit "JUMP" at any time during the align process! As the accuracy of the jump increases, you could call "good enough" once it's at 90% and hit jump in order to shave a few precious seconds off of your align time to escape harm. Clearly there would be a threshold for alignment so that you can't hit jump instantly in order to avoid death. In the last few seconds of a normal align cycle the accuracy would go from 0-100%, giving the player the choice when trying to run or trying to catch another player the option to gamble with their chance of arriving slightly sooner at the expense of accuracy.

We could build powerful navigation systems into Command Ships (OH HO, look, a real role for them!...) that would be able to quickly and accurately navigate large gangs of players to arrive all at the same place, at the same time, with less fuel cost. Again, just brainstorming here.

Believe it or not, Eve needs more complexity and more layers to peel back when it comes to PVP and combat, and adding additional complexity to information warfare and navigation is a great way to start without changing the existing offense/defense mechanics of actual combat.

All of these ideas don't require too much in the way of art. Most are purely game design changes. I can't think of anything that I'm proposing right now that isn't already in the game. The TL; DR of the above concept is as basic as proposing sub-capital ships be able to use celestial objects as pseudo cyno beacons to jump to, and building in accuracy errors when arriving. Should be pretty simple. As for precedent: what do you think happens when Black Ops ships bridge in a bomber gang onto a Covert Cyno? Same concept, more flexibility.

Again, bring on the discussion! I'd like to hear your ideas!

OP's a talker. good thing I like what he is saying.

New intel tools should be in the next expansion. This would be a great overhaul to the staid mechanics of watching local.

LOL, yeah my bad, thats why I never should make the plans of anything.

Still a twist in the system would be freaking awesome if they want to give the cloakers the benefict of no local.
Like loosing some fleet advantages like being able to warp to somebody and/or making bookmarks.
Could be more focused in the "Run Silent, Run Deep" theme.

Just look U-boats and their role, weakness and streghts that were exploited in both sides, could make the game more amazing!

OP is Space Jesus.

OP, ironically, is completely correct :3

Came here expecting another lame manifesto about why hated people do what they do.

Left disappointed, but happy to have seen a good analysis of the current state of hiding in Eve, and reasonable ideas to make the situation better.

Don't try to touch the cloaking mechanics.

The tears would drown all hamster and the game / forum would crash.

***now i read it.***