Player Features and Ideas Discussion

[quote=Jade Constantine]I actually think the game does need some PvP "arenas" but they need to be integrated into the setting and concept of New Eden.

Consequence-free though? Screw that.

What I'd see would be organized fights in Arena deadspace areas across space that allow certain classes of shps in to fights to the death. These would be real ships, with real equipment that explode and leave real loot. Only thing that the arena principle would allow would be guarentee of non-involvement of 3rd party interference and a way of fighting without concord involvement in low/hisec /quote]


This place you speak of.. it exist ... It is called. NULL.. Ffs man have you forgotten that a zero consequence no holds bar arena is waiting in over 3000 separate systems.. for real tho, get ya pussass out of hi sec.. leave the cushy basenett of concordium.. cut the cord

YOU CAN DO IT..!! You just go to your nearest .01 system that connects to one of those little red boxes on your waypoints and click jump-jump-jump.. yea that's where you are asking to be...

There's no real need for a total separate arena mechanic other than what the AT is supposed to be..

I agree it'd be awesome to wager on matches of 1v1, 2v2 and etc, but in That type of thing should be player run.. find some dead 0.0 system where people who were serious could meet just outside lo-sec to avoid too many ganks..

To give a whole new PvP area inside a so-called PvP area (hisec more so than lo) is silly and is just more oppurtunity for those in hi-sec to pussy foot around actual "fair/no concord games" PvP.. be real to yaselves.. that's all hisec PvP is.. a bunch of pussyfooting

An arena would be a great idea, but it would have to be bring your own ship. If it wasn't it would be ridiculous..

And instead of an arena, how about just fixing FW first?

And another feature that would be nice to have in the arena would be betting on the fights in establishments. However EvE players have already demonstrated that they aren't ready for that through the bounty system and the last tournament.

lets call it "Almost a good idea and then only if you have to bring your own ship".

CCP did try to put arenas into Eve a couple of years ago, but the idea is so awful that the code rejected it.

I agree the no consequence is horrible. I also agree some arena concepts would work. I like your idea but I would say they should be a little more player controled.

Alliances could buy arenas. They would have to be manufactured though. They could be erected in null or possibly low sec. High sec would consider it too barbaric. The alliance putting the arena up would be able to upgrade it to put in sentry towers that could ecm or shoot any improper third party interferer. But just like a college football game can be interrupted with a streaker the arena battle could be interupted with a third party.(this is eve) It would be up to the host to give the best protection through upgrading the arena or even having other ships standing guard.

If an alliance did a good job providing protection then their events would gain notoriety and winning them would be something players would feel was an accomplishment. Maybe alliances would work together to put on an olympics of sorts. I really have no idea.

The arenas could have different concepts on how to win.

But before all this is done I think the best way to give casual players a fix for pvp is to fix the faction war plexing mechanics. That would be a *huge* boost to casual player pvp. And it wouldn't be arranged pvp.

You missed my point. People automatically jump to the conclusion that arena == not losing ships or such. I dont see why they jump to this conclusion. (Well I do they just think instanced ___ insert other MMO here___) In which case no one ever stated that they want it risk free or where the hell in all of EVE have you ever seen risk free pvp...ever?

So no I did not suggest magical poof instanced arena of wonderment. Rather people's fears of it are unfounded. Which is also funny because the Devs state that they dont want an arena in eve (aside from the alliance tournament)

Of course we have done this many times in the past.

Problem is its a right royal pain in the ass. Can flagging mechanics is amazingly clumsy is such a pain that we don't even run such tournaments much within our same alliance. Sure, it would be possible if we could define a fleet (free pvp no concord or something) but as things stand at the moment its simply too much a pain to do it with any regularity.

I think at some point we need to accept that CCP should be delivering us content to empower players to do these things. Its an eight year old game and has a huge potential if only the developers give us some tools to make it happen in a fluid and entertaining way.

from what we have saw, it seems only a fraction of eve's player pvp

so question : do you want to continue shooting sitting duck, or do you prefer them to learn a bit and be more hard to kill ?

if a way to get on a fair fight exist, i'm pretty sure more people will try the pvp you like later.

of course to get something where people can't abuse the system it would need a lot of work, but i honestly like the idea.
... even if i'm pretty sure it will never happen as it would be too complicated to do.

That would be a resounding no!

Which would work really well until someone signs up as a competitor and then passes the bookmark to their buddies who then attack the contest.

What has WoW have to do with providing a platform for Eve players to fight with 0 risk? There aren't any negative impacts on PVP in the wilds (losec, null, w-space). NONE. It doesn't even impact PVP in hs since technically there isn't non-consensual PVP in hs other than from the manipulation of game mechanics and wars which are still there.

Your dislike for WoW seriously affects your judgment.