Science & Industry

A few friends and I have stuck together a mining corp and are eventually looking to get into Planetary Interaction. I've done what research I can and found plenty of useful information.

The one thing I can't seem to find (other than vague references in other people's posts) is the average income, by planet type, sec space, etc.

I'm fully aware that Null-sec is much more lucrative but we were considering finding a nice planet in Hi Sec to do a practice run before moving out to null/low as renters in the long term. Of course, if the station can't even break even during the month than there isn't much point in a practice run.

Sooo, does anyone have a hidden pdf on the average income of various planet types that might be useful?

How are the new PI taxes calculated?

Very difficult question to answer in full.

Depends on your skills in finding good sites (planetology, advanced planetology) , how big the colony is (commad centre skill)
, the market for what you choose to produce.

Can't think of what setup costs are ATM for my 1 PI planet but to give you some idea of income it's a 0.7 sec planet with a 4th level command centre, it produces 120 test cultures per day. At 5-7k each minus taxes it's not a bad return.

Ballpark figures for hi-sec P1 harvest planets, assuming CCU4 trained (so a level 4 CC), 1-2 ECUs with 10-15 heads, 2-4 BIFs and 1-2 LPs. Running 50h cycles, moving heads every 2 days, but not moving ECUs more often then every few months.

Summer 2011 - 650k per planet per day, give or take 150k with one or two rare planets making closer to 1M ISK/day

Fall 2011 - This went up to around 850k ISK/day across a few dozen P1 harvest planets. Part of that was the Sep/Oct price increase in P1s, part of that was me dropping any planets that got less then 600k/day and replacing them with better worlds that produced 800-1200k ISK worth of goods per day.

Right now - you should be able to setup hi-sec planets that produce somewhere between 800-1200k ISK/day long-term, even after the hot-spots have moved to the other side of the world.

24h cycles make about 15-20% more then 48h cycles. Week-long cycles make about 40-50% less then a daily cycle.

Low-sec makes about 50% more per day, null-sec and w-space make about 2.0x to 2.5x more per day.

(And the 50 ISK/u export tariff for hi-sec COs didn't really change things. But there's also a bit of a slump in the P1 market at the moment, which is making things a bit weird. I think all the people that bought up large stockpiles pre-patch, expecting that POCOs would cause PI prices to surge fast, are now dumping their stockpiles onto the market.)

Ok just to update you just landed a new command centre, setup costs run around 5 mill, thats for 2 ECU ( 5+3 heads), 2 basic processors, 1 advanced processor, comand centre level 4 (requires level 3 skill) and spaceport. Should produce about the same as my other colony ( 120 P2/day )

Hope this helps.

/edit also if you hang out near jita mail me ingame and I can scan out some hotspots for you ( got advanced planetology 3 ) when you've chosen a planet, try to find one with describable landmarks though or I won't be able to describe where to land ie. gas giants = no good for this.

Also if anyone knows of a good list of what can be produced on what planet types (ie no importing) that might be a helpful thing for OP to see. The list of choices of what to produce at first seemed bewelderinly long .

200-400m/month per toon should be a good ballpark figure for highsec.

- 6 moths ago the average should have been around 110-150 m/month.
- Those numbers today are around 230-280 m/month.
- this applies to the average price of valuable commodities that sustained their price for at least 1-2 months


The most profitable commodities at the market do exceed the 400 m/month mark but who knows if the price will last a whole month.

For a level 4 (CCU4) harvest planet, I generally count on 4.2M ISK for the Command Center and another 2.2M ISK for the LP/BIF/ECU modules. Add in the 100k for the basic CC purchase and you're at 6.5M ISK setup fee per harvest planet. Payback has always been less then 14 days (summer 2011) and as little as 7 days (fall/winter 2011).

Factory planets (3 LP, 18 AIFs) run more in the 10-11M range and make anywhere from 1-3M ISK/day for P2s produced from P1, up to 3-6M per day for P3s (usually produced from P1). Factory planets require that you pay close attention to current market trends, so that you don't end up making things at a loss.

Whatever you do, if you have harvest planets, set aside a day each month to go through and get a snapshot of exactly how many units per hour (average) that you're getting of each P0 raw from the ECUs and total it up for each planet. Calculate how many P1 you get, then do the math using current market prices to determine your net ISK/day from each planet. Any planets that are "weak" you should look into switching to a different product, or consider moving to another planet in the same system (or maybe an immediate neighbor).

The only place you can see this is in the Command Center's upgrade screen where you upgrade it (in the mouse-over text). The "basic" one is defined as level zero there and the upgrades are numbered 1-5.

(CCP has not been consistent on this in the past, so I always state CCU skill level.)