Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hey hey. let's play spot the differences.


Except that that ship there mines 90% what a max skill hulk does while needing no skill for yield, at ranges further than a max skilled Mackinaw with Rorqual links and Harvester implants, and has more tank than a max skill skiff.

No. You don't get to have an ungankable BS sized miner combining every positive aspect of all the barges (except cargobay), with build in superboosts and implant sets.

No for the same reason I earlier was cranky at a gankers request for 8 gun medium gun wielding mini ABC destroyers capable of having 1100 dps.

You simply don't get to have everything you want. And this idea is far out of the ballpark for reasonable.

You want a BS sized miner? Well Rohk never went anywhere.

Edit: It's a BS sized hull with presumable significantly more tank than a mack/hulk, it presumably has more fitting capacity to fit defenses (likely resulting in a ship that is nearly as tanky or as tanky as a skiff, it natively has at level 0 of the skill 4 strips compared to a hulks 4.4ish at max skills, an up to 100% range boost.

The only downside is that it has only a moderately sized ore hold.

So I guess it has the same tank level and fitting capabilities as a Hulk or Mackinaw? Since we seem to be trading the high yield of a hulk for range?

Or does this have the sort of tank that you would expect on a BS hull?

The proposed 864m3/min is very close to the Skiffs 881 at Exhumer lv IV.

If it has a BS level tank, then it basically has Skiff yield, Skiff tank, and trades the skiff's drone bonus and some of the ore hold for an extremely useful up to 100% range bonus and a utility highslot. An additional bonus is that you don't need to train the skill past the minimum to gain the full yield, although this is slightly mitigated by the capability for the skill to get a bit more with Lv 5 Exhumers for the crazy.

I guess the real question is how much fitting and capacitor it has, and how many rig slots. While the trade off of half the skiffs ore hold and all of the drone bonus would be acceptable if it's just a trade off to a range bonus, if the BS ship has the capacitor and fitting ability of a typical BS hull then that utility highslot is going to be used for large capacitor transfer so that groups of multiple of these are permarunning X-L SB's using a cap circle jerk.

I think most people here understand that there will not be a ship introduced that outperforms the current Exhumers as much as the current Exhumers outperform the mining frigate.

With 4 strips, it mines about 7% slower than a max skill Hulk, but it does so at any ship skill level. That's more than a max skilled Mackinaw or Covetor.

3 strips max. But I like your idea for increased range instead of increased yield.

Mining BS?Hmmm..like it but.....

These Exe stripes u say, should have been forbiden to use by law in hi-sec due to security issues like a operating with extra heavy indy stuff,so if u turn it on in hi sec CONCORD ccrush you.

So you can choice to fit it by regular stripes, wich is Ok in hisec but then no bonues and it should mine lees or same(cuz big cargo,lees turns back) then barges(cuz barges are specialized drill platform,but this BS should be something like the ship from RED DWARF serial,for long live in space alone(big ore cargo)) But it will be definitly beated by barges in fleet with orca support.

So you have then choices to actualy mine by these superduper Exe stripes in low sec or null,but you need to actualy play,checking d-scan, fithing rats, be on alert etc.

Or be fited with regular stripes,mine not so much,but u can be afk for long and fap,but as someone say, this ship is just big dull box and be gankable if ur fited not tanky.So fap or mine,no booth.

Or be fited tanky with strips in hisec, badly gankable/ungankable or just in group.But then the mining will be really really bad profitable.