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EWAR in two man team?
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erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#1 - 2014-12-30 19:30:34 UTC
Hi.

Let say you have two frigates team in FW zone with poor PVP intention. What is better combination : 2 DPS ships or DPS + EWAR ship?

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Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#2 - 2014-12-30 20:13:04 UTC
depends about players, usually for new players ewar may be more efficient, but experienced skilled players can do more with two dps ships.
Plato Forko
123 Fake Street
#3 - 2014-12-30 20:45:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Plato Forko
EWAR is just damage mitigation (although neuting is also good for shutting down active tanks), so is superior DPS but it stands more chance of generating a killmail before your target's backup lands.
Arla Sarain
#4 - 2014-12-31 01:05:00 UTC
Mauluses have significant DPS. Although the EWAR isn't as great in duos. If you kite a lot then a maulus will be helpful.

If you like random, fit a Griffin. Let your DPS ship have a scram, add a second web on a griffin, 3 ECM mods, some rockets. Maybe an active armor tank. The griffin will add somewhere like 40-50 DPS on it's own and has the best tank of all - ECM tank. Until it fails.
Aleksi Bocharov
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-01-01 16:46:36 UTC
I promise you, if you bring ECM to small engagements, people will start denying you fights on principle even when you don't have ECM.
Jurico Elemenohpe
Flipsid3 Tactics
#6 - 2015-01-02 10:52:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Jurico Elemenohpe
Ewar.
Crucifier
The ultimate f**k you ship against frigates/destroyers.

Oh nice you have 3.9k optimal and 5.3k falloff? Not anymore, Go down to .8/1! Haha suck that! (2TD on a perfect crucifier v catalyst w/ ion blasters and null)

Oh nice you can do 500dps at 2.1/1.9? Not anymore! Suck that, .4/.4. And you can't track me either, sucker!

Oh hey mr. kiter, how does it feel like kite with a GODDAMN 3.6k OPTIMAL and 1k FALLOFF? HAHA SUCK THAT YOU NUB.

But srsly. TDs will ruin any turret frigates day. Even with meh skills, you can destroy a kiter (pull them into scram range) or wreck a brawler (use tracking disruption scripts).

I recommend your friend being in a brawly ship (coughcatalystcough) and you fitting 2td/1web, mwd and ancillary armor rep. Don't forget to swap scripts as the situation desires.

I've never actually tested this in practice so it may be a terrible idea but it's sound in theory. Crucifier DPS is kind of terrible, so I suggest using 2*nos or nos/neut. It's also the reason you bring a brawler, because it's going to make up for all the dps you're (not) doing, even moreso if DPS is a catalyst.

Oh yeah..
And don't forget to avoid missile boats.
Quattras Peione
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-01-07 02:07:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Quattras Peione
+1 to avoiding missile boats. TD's and the like just make me chuckle as I overheat my rocket launchers.

EWar is how I get newbros who are skittish about shooting another player to dip their toes into it. Suddenly mister Spreadsheet is a bloodthirsty SB pilot. I love you too, Eve.

Dr. Quattras Alvar Peione

No, I'm not that kind of doctor.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#8 - 2015-01-08 05:44:28 UTC
Jurico Elemenohpe wrote:
Ewar.
Crucifier
The ultimate f**k you ship against frigates/destroyers.

Oh nice you have 3.9k optimal and 5.3k falloff? Not anymore, Go down to .8/1! Haha suck that! (2TD on a perfect crucifier v catalyst w/ ion blasters and null)

Oh nice you can do 500dps at 2.1/1.9? Not anymore! Suck that, .4/.4. And you can't track me either, sucker!

Oh hey mr. kiter, how does it feel like kite with a GODDAMN 3.6k OPTIMAL and 1k FALLOFF? HAHA SUCK THAT YOU NUB.

But srsly. TDs will ruin any turret frigates day. Even with meh skills, you can destroy a kiter (pull them into scram range) or wreck a brawler (use tracking disruption scripts).

I recommend your friend being in a brawly ship (coughcatalystcough) and you fitting 2td/1web, mwd and ancillary armor rep. Don't forget to swap scripts as the situation desires.

I've never actually tested this in practice so it may be a terrible idea but it's sound in theory. Crucifier DPS is kind of terrible, so I suggest using 2*nos or nos/neut. It's also the reason you bring a brawler, because it's going to make up for all the dps you're (not) doing, even moreso if DPS is a catalyst.

Oh yeah..
And don't forget to avoid missile boats.



^^ Do this - It is a great idea.

Last guy who did this to a slicer I was flying - I pointed and played with for over 30min.

I even offered him the chance to turn his ewar off and he refused.

So I did some shopping in Jita on an alt while keeping him pointed.

Then when I decided I needed to go to the fridge for another beer - I got a corp mate to come in a drone ship.








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Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#9 - 2015-01-08 15:08:45 UTC
ECM + Sensor Damps.


  • Jam Target
  • Load Scan Resolution Scripts Into Damps
  • Wait 20 Minutes for Target to Lock
  • +20 Points if Target is Battleship
Lady Rift
His Majesty's Privateers
#10 - 2015-01-08 15:16:02 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
Jurico Elemenohpe wrote:
Ewar.
Crucifier
The ultimate f**k you ship against frigates/destroyers.

Oh nice you have 3.9k optimal and 5.3k falloff? Not anymore, Go down to .8/1! Haha suck that! (2TD on a perfect crucifier v catalyst w/ ion blasters and null)

Oh nice you can do 500dps at 2.1/1.9? Not anymore! Suck that, .4/.4. And you can't track me either, sucker!

Oh hey mr. kiter, how does it feel like kite with a GODDAMN 3.6k OPTIMAL and 1k FALLOFF? HAHA SUCK THAT YOU NUB.

But srsly. TDs will ruin any turret frigates day. Even with meh skills, you can destroy a kiter (pull them into scram range) or wreck a brawler (use tracking disruption scripts).

I recommend your friend being in a brawly ship (coughcatalystcough) and you fitting 2td/1web, mwd and ancillary armor rep. Don't forget to swap scripts as the situation desires.

I've never actually tested this in practice so it may be a terrible idea but it's sound in theory. Crucifier DPS is kind of terrible, so I suggest using 2*nos or nos/neut. It's also the reason you bring a brawler, because it's going to make up for all the dps you're (not) doing, even moreso if DPS is a catalyst.

Oh yeah..
And don't forget to avoid missile boats.



^^ Do this - It is a great idea.

Last guy who did this to a slicer I was flying - I pointed and played with for over 30min.

I even offered him the chance to turn his ewar off and he refused.

So I did some shopping in Jita on an alt while keeping him pointed.

Then when I decided I needed to go to the fridge for another beer - I got a corp mate to come in a drone ship.


that's why you don't be cheap and use a sentinel