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Hulks being suicided, where is the humanity??
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Chowilawu
Noir Venecia
#1 - 2011-12-18 00:51:07 UTC
So it seems there is a popular belief that one single thrasher can't suicide a hulk in hi-sec. However, because of crucible expansion destroyers are greatly enhanced damage boats.. Now i feel that those who suicide and those who hope not to be suicideded need to be aware of just how much one little halpless thrasher is capable of doing.

So how many thrashers does it take to kill a hulk anyway? You might have asked yourself....
lets get to the point shall we

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNRuv2ktrCQ

watch the video, study the kill mail and asks yourself:
"What do I have to do to not get my carebear self exploaded?"
as opposed to
"How many cargo expansnors should i fit to get the best results?"

1 time out of 100: its not safe to mine afk, its not safe to mine all innocents like, its just not safe period, if you think you can make isks (while afk) and not risk losing crap you are wrong, and if you were right then why play the game?

don't think u are safe just because its not "hulkageddon" because its always "hulkageddon"

so is this legitimate? are destroyers overpowered in any way? is concord lazy? should hulks have better tanks? are you here to troll the forums? looking forward to your thoughts mmmmkay
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#2 - 2011-12-18 01:21:11 UTC
2/10 on the troll scale.

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.
Chowilawu
Noir Venecia
#3 - 2011-12-18 01:34:25 UTC
Vordak Kallager wrote:
2/10 on the troll scale.


thanks for your input
1/10 on the originality scale Cool
Shaotuk
Sin City Enterprises
#4 - 2011-12-18 01:58:51 UTC
Hulks are fine as they stand. Had the pilot made a few prudent fitting choices, that could have been avoided.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#5 - 2011-12-18 02:01:55 UTC
Elsewhere.

OP was tl;dr.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Chowilawu
Noir Venecia
#6 - 2011-12-18 02:13:43 UTC
Shaotuk wrote:
Hulks are fine as they stand. Had the pilot made a few prudent fitting choices, that could have been avoided.

you are most correct.. but lets say its a mackinaw, how much then would those fitting changes save the ship? is it not too easy for a 10m isk destroyer fit to kill a 100m isk exhumer? simply put, it seems that any challenge that might have somehow existed to kill exhumers is being obliterated in spite of the cryouts of the occasional rage quitter. Should CCP just remove high-sec ore to save miners from themselves? Should things stay completely the same? Any thoughts are welcome.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-12-18 03:18:31 UTC
Except for the last paragraph, your post is entirely correct and exactly as it should be.
Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2011-12-18 03:51:56 UTC
a 40m cane can **** a 500m tengu so yeah

also if you spend 10m on your destroyers well,
whaynethepain
#9 - 2011-12-18 05:30:43 UTC
Hulks are over-powered.

The drone bays should be removed, and resistances lowered.

They warp too fast, align too fast and the locking time is insane.

The sig radius is far too small and why they even have low slots is a mystery.

And the fire stuff coming out the sides is utter madness, how does fire coming out the sides not make the ship flail about more.

Nerf the hulk, before it ruins Empire.

Getting you on your feet.

So you've further to fall.
nooblete
Doomheim
#10 - 2011-12-18 09:16:41 UTC
Chowilawu wrote:
So it seems there is a popular belief that one single thrasher can't suicide a hulk in hi-sec. However, because of crucible expansion destroyers are greatly enhanced damage boats.. Now i feel that those who suicide and those who hope not to be suicideded need to be aware of just how much one little halpless thrasher is capable of doing.

So how many thrashers does it take to kill a hulk anyway? You might have asked yourself....
lets get to the point shall we

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNRuv2ktrCQ

watch the video, study the kill mail and asks yourself:
"What do I have to do to not get my carebear self exploaded?"
as opposed to
"How many cargo expansnors should i fit to get the best results?"

1 time out of 100: its not safe to mine afk, its not safe to mine all innocents like, its just not safe period, if you think you can make isks (while afk) and not risk losing crap you are wrong, and if you were right then why play the game?

don't think u are safe just because its not "hulkageddon" because its always "hulkageddon"

so is this legitimate? are destroyers overpowered in any way? is concord lazy? should hulks have better tanks? are you here to troll the forums? looking forward to your thoughts mmmmkay

Oh youtube, why do you troll me so, you give the impression you're capable of hosting HD material, but you're not. Not really.

Compared to an Orca which can get up to about 210k ehp, why is an industrial for the same 'job' at only 15-20k max?
Wouldn't have worked in a 1.0 though would it? They were solo in a 0.5 knowing full well concord are much slower.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#11 - 2011-12-18 14:39:02 UTC
Posting in a hulk thread.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#12 - 2011-12-18 16:15:28 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
Posting in a hulk thread.


Posting in a Spanking thread.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Worpout
Royal Amarr Institute
#13 - 2011-12-18 16:15:40 UTC
Boost the hulk, for the love of god, boost it! I want cheaper minerals and ships now.
Pinaculus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-12-18 16:36:15 UTC
I don't get it.

I've done the mining thing. Too boring for my tastes.

I've done the missioning thing. It was also very boring.

I knew doing both of those that people would probably want to come mess with me just because I was "Minding My Own Business."

People in all walks of life enjoy screwing with the loners that just want to mind their own business. I've never really figured out why, but I'm sure it has something to do with loners making easy targets.

So, why all the whining about suicide gankers? Have these people never attended a school or walked down an unfamiliar street? Never went to the movies or a restaurant alone? You get treated differently when you're a loner. People like to kick stray dogs, no matter what walk of life. Why would EVE be any different?

I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs.
astara989
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-12-18 17:22:09 UTC
As far as I'm concerned all is working fine. Fitting for max cargo/yield = greater reward and higher risk, mining with a hulk fitted for buffer = less reward and less risk.

Same with mining in 0.5 instead of 1.0
Chowilawu
Noir Venecia
#16 - 2011-12-18 17:41:15 UTC
Pinaculus wrote:
So, why all the whining about suicide gankers? Have these people never attended a school or walked down an unfamiliar street? Never went to the movies or a restaurant alone? You get treated differently when you're a loner. People like to kick stray dogs, no matter what walk of life. Why would EVE be any different?


remember your on an online forum... dont be getting all philosphical on the intrawebs post because its gonna come out as jibberish to practically everyone that reads it. by the way kicking stray dogs is animal cruelty, i hope your not insinuating that the average eve ganker goes around kicking dogs.. and i also would prefer to gank chribba mining but he mines in titans so.. yeh
Goose99
#17 - 2011-12-18 19:52:11 UTC
Thrasher? You fail at ganking hulks. What if it had been tanked? You're supposed to use 800 dps overheated Catalyst. And no, you won't need those guns later.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-12-19 11:56:55 UTC
Where is the humanity?

Not sure.

Now, if you're asking where the hilarity is...

Dodixie > Hek
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#19 - 2011-12-20 13:47:18 UTC
Repeating after Pinaculus

I didn't get it.
No, I don't get it at all.
What's the underlying reason to destruction of peaceful vessels? Are they your enemies? I doubt. You gonna fight for resources? No, it would be too hilarious to see you mining after all... You have proved that you can destroy it? Good, but why destroy others?

Did this kill made your day? I think it is pathetic. You know what kills made my days? When I killed destroyers and cruisers with a mere badger. And not just baiting them, but actually killing them. That was fun indeed.

But, well, no people were born equal, everyone has it's own level. If killing these things is fun for you, go ahead... weakling Big smile

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2011-12-20 13:53:41 UTC
Quote:
Hulks being suicided, where is the humanity??

Obviously, not in New Eden Big smile

As for why: because they want to evoke some display of emotion from the owner of said Hulk(s), and as we can all see here, it's a lot easier to evoke a negative reaction than a positive one.
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