EVE General Discussion

The answer is: do they have the firepower to back up their demands?

No, you do not need to buy a permit. CODE. is a player group that uses an old tacktic to extort money. Pay them and you get 'protection' from the mod. Don't and you get ganked. Just move to a different system away form the hubs, there are tons, you just need to move. Then you don;t have to worry about code.

Or fit so you cna tank them long enough to run.

Or pay there extortion money. But thats doens;t meam you won;t get ganked (reminds me i should make an anti code group to gank the code paying miners.. hmm....)

I disagree with your opinion that CODE. are a griefers alliance.

IMHO They're a pirate/criminal group with aspects of roleplay; normally manifested in the form of tongue in cheek religious zealotry. They're not the first group in Eve to combine RP zealotry and violence to achieve their aims, Jihadswarm predates them by a few years. Their particular shtick is neither unique or new.

They run a protection racket in which their modus operandi is to kill people who aren't paying attention and attempt to extort isk from them for a "permit"; something which is currently allowed and is within the rules established by CCP.

Their AT performance is completely irrelevant in the context of the OP's original question.

At the OP; no you don't need a permit to mine in highsec, what you do need to do is to take precautions against the likes of CODE.

Set standings to them @ terrible using the personal standings mechanic, which will highlight them in a rather fetching shade of red on the overview and in local.

Treat highsec as dangerous space, choose and fit your ships accordingly, Skiffs and Procurers excel at discouraging gankers for the sacrifice of a little yield.

If you have to go afk dock up, watch local for people who have terrible standings (see above) or who have small skulls next to their names.

Don't rant at them, or you'll end up being an object of ridicule in local, on the minerbumping blog and in their forums.

Of course you don't need to buy one - just like you don't need to fit tank or stay at your keyboard. But if you want to mine unmolested in New Order territory you better have one and follow the Code.

Whether this safety is worth the paltry 10M ISK/year is up to you. However if you listen to some of the advice here and forgo the permit, please don't come the the forum next time you explode while mining and beg CCP to make highsec safer for you because you chose to mine without one.

You don't need a permit to mine in HiSec, however, you need a permit to avoid getting ganked by CODE. CODE permits are legit and you will not be ganked so long as you are following the rules CODE sets forth.

Anyone who disagrees with me, show me examples of CODE ganking people who have permits.

Piracy is part of the game, but pirates want easy kills. This means they will frequent high population systems and ice belts. Find yourself a low-population system in 0.5 or 0.6 and they might never bother you.

Alternatively you can fly a Procurer and/or tank your barge. But then you have to weigh the significant loss in yield vs. the money you'll save from being ganked. I strongly discourage flying a Hulk or Mackinaw in high-sec.

Lol.
Code can take that permit a put it where the sun don't shine.

Yes, I am the proud posessor of a CODE 12 month mining and hauling permit.

I may not display it in my bio because that's for normal people to do, plus there's no room.

But never the less, I do have one and you can learn more by reading last July's exciting entry in my wormhole diaries.

/Shameless plug

I don't even know who my mother is.

Why do people always generalize?

I believe it is entirely fair to ask for a permit...to gank

Mind=Blown