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Do you have to have a permit to mine in high sec?

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LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2015-01-01 06:04:52 UTC  |  Edited by: LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
I got ganked today in a .7 zone and was told it is illegal for me to mine in high sec without a permit. (according to the new order on some mining bumping site). Plz give me honest answers on how i should continue my solo mining career. Am i really not safe mining anywhere?


guys that ganked you gank for fun. if you buy a permit from them, they will take your isk then gank you.

if you mine in systems off the beaten path, you will be OK.

you can mine in null-sec, or in wormholes, both are safe if you use intel tools and are part of a corp. more profitable too.

EDIT - i highly recommend you join a null-sec group and mine in the deep back-end systems they have for this purpose. the profit is 3-4x the profit of high-sec minerals, you have access to regional intel tools, so someone shows up 5 jumps away you know about it. You can refine your ore in stations for a small tax i guess most corps take, then sell to that station or run high-end minerals to empire via wormhole chains yourself if you know how to scan. You will get ganked every now and again, but because you are mining high-end null-sec ore, you dont really care, you replace whatever was lost in 1 hour tops.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#22 - 2015-01-01 06:14:58 UTC
You don't need a permit and being in a mining corp is counterproductive. Being AFK or not doesn't really matter.

The only thing you need to know is this. Be a harder to kill target than the other miners in your system. That's it.

The best way to do that is by training some shield skills and fitting a decent buffer tank. Also, keep in mind that some Exhumers are inherently harder to kill than others. The trade off is that they mine slower. A decent trade off in my opinion.

One other thing is to get out of populated systems. Find a nice backwater place that is 6 or 7 jumps from a trade hub and 3 or 4 jumps from low sec.

Mr Epeen Cool
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#23 - 2015-01-01 06:24:23 UTC
Yeah, there is no benefit for a hisec miner to join a corp, it will only expose them to wardecs and awoxers.

Judging from your kill mail, your tank skills must be pretty bad. You should probably work on those, along with fitting skills and other core skills. Maybe stick to the small tanky barge/exhumer in the meantime. And fit a damage control in one of the lowslots.
Dsparil Mal
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#24 - 2015-01-01 07:58:25 UTC
CODE. are a bunch of role playing gankers. The permits don't do ****. I gank miners just to make them cry. It's good times.

Erotica 1 for CSM 9!
Kaely Tanniss
Black Lotus Society.
#25 - 2015-01-01 08:07:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaely Tanniss
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
I got ganked today in a .7 zone and was told it is illegal for me to mine in high sec without a permit. (according to the new order on some mining bumping site). Plz give me honest answers on how i should continue my solo mining career. Am i really not safe mining anywhere?


The biggest problem with your statement is "how i should continue my solo mining career." Eve is not a solo game. It's a highly social MMO.

With that being said, you are always in danger at anything you do in Eve. I suggest you make some friends, pay attention to local and who lands on grid with you..and use d-scan. If you don't know what these things are or how to use them, that's exactly why Eve isn't a solo game. You need some friendly guidance and advice..but be careful, there are those who give bad advice to new players (assuming you are new).

Do not let the name "high security space" fool you into believing you are safe. Gl and fly safer.Smile

If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Foodpimp
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2015-01-01 08:10:37 UTC
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
I got ganked today in a .7 zone and was told it is illegal for me to mine in high sec without a permit. (according to the new order on some mining bumping site). Plz give me honest answers on how i should continue my solo mining career. Am i really not safe mining anywhere?


The biggest problem with your statement is "how i should continue my solo mining career." Eve is not a solo game. It's a highly social MMO.

With that being said, you are always in danger at anything you do in Eve. I suggest you make some friends, pay attention to local and who lands on grid with you..and use d-scan. If you don't know what these things are or how to use them, that's exactly why Eve isn't a solo game. You need some friendly guidance and advice..but be careful, there are those who give bad advice to new players (assuming you are new).

Do not let the name "high security space" fool you into believing you are safe. Gl and fly safer.Smile



you...uhhh...you know that's a CODE alt....right?
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#27 - 2015-01-01 08:27:03 UTC
mine in out of the way systems, and/or fit a buffer tank. laugh at code when they spend more in ships to gank you than yours is worth.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
8 EyedSpy
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2015-01-01 08:27:29 UTC
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
Thats the thing. I understand ganking experienced players who know better and know alot about this game but im pretty new. I mean, ive had this account for a few years, but ive only ever played for like 3 months. After they killed my ship, I have nothing.... I have like an ibis 10 jumps away but thats it... I had a mackinaw....


As far as they know you've been playing for years and three months isn't new anyway. The reason you don't know a lot about the game is you haven't cared to learn. At least now you know the first rule of Eve, don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2015-01-01 09:04:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Il Feytid
As someone already touched on, you want to be the least attractive target for the suicide gankers. If you are going with exhumers I recommend this setup right here:

[Skiff, .I.. Code]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Hammerhead II x5
Salvage Drone I x5
Hobgoblin II x5

This little baby has serious beast levels of buffer hit points on it. It will make any group of suicide gankers cry giant baby man tears. Make sure the drones are out and set to not focus fire so when the suicide gankers come and smash their pimple filled faces against the brick wall that is your tank - you get on as many kill mails as possible. Also be sure to have the shield hardeners pre overloaded and not active. Then when they start to land next to you, turn them on.

If you are running command ship level shield links as well, we are talking well over 190 thousand EHP!

I know you may look at the harvesting levels and think about adding mining upgrades, but let's be honest here. Why harvest rocks when you can harvest suicide ganker tears?Bear
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#30 - 2015-01-01 12:14:32 UTC
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
I got ganked today in a .7 zone and was told it is illegal for me to mine in high sec without a permit. (according to the new order on some mining bumping site). Plz give me honest answers on how i should continue my solo mining career. Am i really not safe mining anywhere?


The biggest problem with your statement is "how i should continue my solo mining career." Eve is not a solo game. It's a highly social MMO.

With that being said, you are always in danger at anything you do in Eve. I suggest you make some friends, pay attention to local and who lands on grid with you..and use d-scan. If you don't know what these things are or how to use them, that's exactly why Eve isn't a solo game. You need some friendly guidance and advice..but be careful, there are those who give bad advice to new players (assuming you are new).

I truly believe that the people who give bad advice are also those that would suggest that you cannot play the game solo.

However.
You seem to have misinterpreted what he meant.
When he says 'solo mining career' he means to mine by himself, and not in a mining fleet or with player corp mates.

He has supposedly played for a time-span of under 4 months, so I would assume that he thinks that a player corp is safer/more profitable/better in every other way. A long time ago I used to think the same thing.

Friends are fine. Game mechanics are fine. Third-party tools are fine too.
You can play the game in any which way and you'll still succeed no less.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#31 - 2015-01-01 12:33:44 UTC
Code-compliance will prevent you being ganked (by CODE at least).

Source: my CODE alt

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Jurico Elemenohpe
Flipsid3 Tactics
#32 - 2015-01-01 12:43:18 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
As someone already touched on, you want to be the least attractive target for the suicide gankers. If you are going with exhumers I recommend this setup right here:

[Skiff, .I.. Code]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Hammerhead II x5
Salvage Drone I x5
Hobgoblin II x5

This little baby has serious beast levels of buffer hit points on it. It will make any group of suicide gankers cry giant baby man tears. Make sure the drones are out and set to not focus fire so when the suicide gankers come and smash their pimple filled faces against the brick wall that is your tank - you get on as many kill mails as possible. Also be sure to have the shield hardeners pre overloaded and not active. Then when they start to land next to you, turn them on.

If you are running command ship level shield links as well, we are talking well over 190 thousand EHP!

I know you may look at the harvesting levels and think about adding mining upgrades, but let's be honest here. Why harvest rocks when you can harvest suicide ganker tears?Bear

Because they're probably going to scan you before attacking a skiff.. And they'll decide there are easier skiffs to gank.. So you'd never get attacked by all but the stupidest? Even without scanning, they know it's a skiff which is a ***** to kill.
Lina Alar
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2015-01-01 13:48:09 UTC
Yes. It's called a subscription (a.k.a. Pilot License in-game).

An explanation of Eve socialization: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTbgvYPVdXE

Lick with your main™
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#34 - 2015-01-01 13:59:00 UTC
No permit needed....just go to where they never go (khanid works) and mine away in peace. The only law in highsec is that of concord, and they don't require permits. code are criminals who break the law by ganking...you certainly are under no obligation to cooperate with them.
Lupe Meza
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2015-01-01 14:37:09 UTC
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:
Dradis Aulmais wrote:
Joking a corp safety in numbers look at the recruiting forum

'Safety in numbers' >>> More targets.

Just sayin'


Absolutely. State of High Sec and wardecs being as they are, if the OP really wants to play solo there is no benefit to him joining a high sec indy corp. On top of CODE, he'll have to deal with the plethora of elite high sec pvp corps. In an NPC corp he just deals with CODE and the odd suicide ganker.

Safety in numbers doesn't really fly in high IMO, you're just advertising a henhouse for the foxes to come in and eat their fill.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#36 - 2015-01-01 15:16:23 UTC
Just change the system...move in another area. If you want to play solo....go to the test server.

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#37 - 2015-01-01 15:26:29 UTC
Foodpimp wrote:
Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
I got ganked today in a .7 zone and was told it is illegal for me to mine in high sec without a permit. (according to the new order on some mining bumping site). Plz give me honest answers on how i should continue my solo mining career. Am i really not safe mining anywhere?


The biggest problem with your statement is "how i should continue my solo mining career." Eve is not a solo game. It's a highly social MMO.

With that being said, you are always in danger at anything you do in Eve. I suggest you make some friends, pay attention to local and who lands on grid with you..and use d-scan. If you don't know what these things are or how to use them, that's exactly why Eve isn't a solo game. You need some friendly guidance and advice..but be careful, there are those who give bad advice to new players (assuming you are new).

Do not let the name "high security space" fool you into believing you are safe. Gl and fly safer.Smile



you...uhhh...you know that's a CODE alt....right?

given he does have a mack loss on killboard, maybe he's not
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#38 - 2015-01-01 15:42:25 UTC
Mining permit? I am registered as miner with a wide variety of mining corporations. If you doubt my permissions to mine, bring it up with them.Bear

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#39 - 2015-01-01 15:50:49 UTC
Naturalcause Lemon wrote:
Am i really not safe mining anywhere?
There is no real safety anywhere in EvE. If you undock, you can be shot at. Period.
But do you need a permit from whatever organisation to do what you want to do in game? The answer is no, you do not.

ISD Ezwal Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2015-01-01 15:54:39 UTC
Just go one region over towards a random direction, chances of encountering code is almost zero.