EVE New Citizens Q&A

Sure. See if this helps: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Factional_Warfare


I see you are in a Corp but RvB is another great place to learn. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Red_Vs_Blue_(RvB)

A lot of fun, but may be days before you see action. Try RvB or FW. Not too hard just be prepared to lose a lot of ships. So no bling.

As someone that has dabbled in what Ralph is describing I'm with you here. Not engaging isn't cowardice...it's just intelligence.


You've lost me. Mission baiting is not ganking. It is consensual PvP, as the mission runner has to engage first. They may be unwise to do so, but that doesn't make it ganking.

It's also not always easy, and it IS a good way to learn PvP. I killed a PVE Dominix in my Hawk. No, it didn't have tackle, but it did nearly kill me and there was a lot of micromanaging of capacitor and heat. You can learn quite a bit about engaging larger targets and all of it is applicable in PvP - especially if the mission runner has neuts or bonused drones. It's very similar to the situation where you are flying tackle and need to stay alive for an extended period while holding down a large target.

If you want to make the argument that it's "watered down" PVP and won't teach you anything about other forms of PVP then I would counter that you can say that about any form of PVP. Faction Warfare is dominated by afterburner+scram+web brawling frigates, but that style is rare in other areas of EVE. Does that make it less valid? No...it's the correct solution for the situation (fighting in and around FW plex beacons). EVE is all about adapting to the situation.

TLDR: I don't agree with either of you. A smart mission runner knows not to engage a target in a PVE ship. They have no reason to risk their ship when they haven't even fit tackle. Baiting is not ganking and it's not as easy as you think. It doesn't cover the entire scope of PVP in EVE but it can help you learn the basics of manual piloting, cap management, heat management, and losing your newbie jitters.

To the OP - Try mission baiting it if it appeals to you. If not, FW is also a great option and should assuage any moral qualms about shooting "innocents".

just pointing out , the only pertinent line is my last one, **** kill boards, its about confidence.

FW and RvB are both good choices for "learn as you go PvP. There are corps that provide PvP classes like Agony Unleashed. I went the 20 pubisher plan but with 200 atrons in and out of FW. If you don't mind losing your ass its great fun and great learning. Good luck.

This site isn't FW specific but read the sections on the frigates. It's a bit dated but most of the info is still applicable. The whole blog is full of great info.

Yeah this was one of my concerns.

Im like a month and a half into this game and just went through this all myself.

If you are looking for solo and really small group pvp, then the standard issue liberal hippy answer of "do whatever feels right, there is no right answer" applies more so than giving a specific faction to focus on.

For larger pvp corps and alliances youll deal with fleet doctrines that will offer a smattering of oddly fit ships, meaning the traditional faction based ships and weapon specialization might not apply,

Basically it wont really matter much what you start with joining a larger pvp corp or alliance, youll end up all over the place to ensure your able to fit several roles in whatever fleet type they bring to the table.

I used to recommend FW to new players, and even helped train some of them. However I no longer do because of the lack of options for repairing faction standings.