Ships & Modules

By 'fix' do we mean like fixing dogs?

Ofc. most annoying thing about ECM isn't being jammed but losing the target lock and as we all know targeting takes ages the further you go up in ship size.
Hence ECCM doesn't really help all that much when your battleship still has to spend 10s targeting back even if the enemy ECM ship has been destroyed and you realise you might had lived those extra 10s if you had fitted more buffer instead of ECM.

Rather than ECM being chance based for a jam over the entire period of module activation, make it stat based for an intermittent target loss every X seconds where X is the difference in jam strength and sensor strength.

Well Hal just like the difference between stun, slow, and silence in other games there is a difference between ECM, target painting, and Warp Scrambling. And like I pointed out I do find ECM to be fair, one the scale of EVE is taken in to account. I just think a reduced cycle time and cap use change IF they try it out on the test server it may show a reduced "rage" level the target of ECM feels.


At the end of the day ECM like the other forms or Ewar will "get ya" if you are not prepared, and that shouldn't change! As some one who uses ECM I do not want it gimped to useless, but the over powered feel of the mechanic will keep it being called back in to debate. I believe a lot of the QQ is based on the universal nature of ECM, one the Force Recon declockes you have a problem(just alot of the time they don't decloak if they were a recon that has bad Ewar pair up against you EX-Pilgrim vs drake). They have a plan you probably don't (or its not as good). I've be owned buy Falcons, Rapiers, Pilgrims, and Arazus. Ever time Just seeing some thing decloak let me know I was in for trouble, didn't matter what did decloak. If they spring the trap they probably believe it will work. If I have no plan it most likely will.


Another part of the QQ IMHO is the Caldari angle, they out of all the races have they most hulls using their ewar, the only other is minnie's with webs and that's if you add all the pirate faction stuff in (then its 8C vs. 10M I think ). That paired with the race with the most mid slots is just going to make people mad buy comparison(doesn't matter what Ewar the Caldari were given they will just have the most on the Field any way, be glad its chance based). And lastly hulls with ECM bonuses never give/deal with other Ewar like every one elses and often giving 2 or more to ECM, and I think all that lends to the "OP" feeling/myth. But ECM is like lazors If you don't bonus the hell out of it with a lot of them, It often won't work.



Now about the chance thing, lots of mechanics of this game are chance based- guns, drops, spawns, escalation's, incursions, warp in distance, jump location and even some of the other Ewar is too if you take in to account there fall-off ( painters and dammpers can and do miss/randomly work less when in fall-off ). Chance with a feature this strong is fine, and I think chance should be MORE prevalent in Ewar (not points/scrams tho to Important of a job). Because Its tricky and I like tricky stuff to feel like gambling, might not work/might hit pay dirt!



I guess at the end of the day I want my Falcon to feel like a tricky rouge, taking my chance for the stunning back stab knowing full well if I fail the ogre/battle ship will eat me.

I only want the other person to feel it was fair, so they un-dock. And as it stands apparently most feel its not fair and we should find a fix for that, its still a game and NEEDS to be fun.

ECM by itself is fine imho, if something needs to be done, boost damps and Information Warfare stats, solves the issue of Gal EWAR and command ships & links too.