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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2014-12-31 06:57:16 UTC
Solj RichPopolous wrote:
CCP tried to fix this once a long time ago. It COMPLETELY broke the game. People would jump gates and never load up on the other side real nasty stuff. CCP rolled it back and deemed it not an exploit afterward.

Out of curiosity, what did they do and why it broke EVE?
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2014-12-31 08:18:46 UTC
Sol Project wrote:
Again, the gain is miniscule.
Wat???

Covops: hit warp + hit cloak --> get bacon

MWD: hit align + hit cloak + hit mwd + pay attention (Shocked) to mwd cycle + hit uncloak + hit warp --> get bacon (if you're not too tired even for bacon, at this point)


That's 2 clicks vs. 5 clicks + paying attention (Shocked). A difference of 3 clicks + paying attention (Shocked)!


Over, say, 20 jumps that's a whopping 60 clicks + 20 times paying attention (Shocked). That sh*t can burn you out!


(seriously)

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!

Solecist Project
#23 - 2014-12-31 08:28:58 UTC
Wow this really burns you out??? :O

Wow if that's too much already ...
... you don't ever want to visit me in my quarters!!

Or fly with me as -10!
Or both... 15min GCC can be sooooo boring all alone.............
(you should try it :p)


Geee men these days have no stamina... *sighs*

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-12-31 08:38:33 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Wow if that's too much already ...
... you don't ever want to visit me in my quarters!!
That's what Strong Blue Pills are for.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!

Solecist Project
#25 - 2014-12-31 08:44:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Wow if that's too much already ...
... you don't ever want to visit me in my quarters!!
That's what Strong Blue Pills are for.

No cheating!!! :O
That's like needing alts to gank!!!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Solecist Project
#26 - 2014-12-31 08:53:21 UTC
*licks white stuff from her lips*

Oh boy what would I do without that.
I feel so empty if I don't get it daily.

Every. Single. Day.
My favourite time is in the morning...

This warm feeling inside of me is what makes me go on ...
... and on ... and on ...





What would I do ...












... without my coffee. ^_^

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Solecist Project
#27 - 2014-12-31 09:13:05 UTC
Killed the thread. Cool

*slowly rubs her soft, warm ...














... arm*

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-12-31 09:24:23 UTC
Are you taking a sauna?

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!

Solecist Project
#29 - 2014-12-31 09:28:14 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Are you taking a sauna?

Look who's curious about the rest of my portrait..... Twisted

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-12-31 09:34:04 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Are you taking a sauna?

Look who's curious about the rest of my portrait..... Twisted
You're naked... :)

Yet your arm is warm... (:


Why?


*scratches head*

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!

Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-12-31 09:36:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Nami Kumamato
Sol Project wrote:
Nami Kumamato wrote:
Why would you start a fire with flint and tinder every time when you can use a damn lighter, since you have it ?...

You are comparing apples with oranges.

Flint and tinder saves on gas. A lighter is of limited use only and the only advantage
is that it is less effort and faster to light a fire.

A covops cloak doesn't make it less effort,
because the effort you have to put into with mwdcloak is rediculously low.

So low, that claiming the covops cloak makes it easier ...
... makes you look like a handicapped person.

Furthermore does the mwdcloak trick not use up a finite amount of ressources aka gas in the lighter,
while the covops cloak does not help you achieve your goal significantly faster.

Again, the gain is miniscule.


A covops cloak makes it easier and safer. Not better.

Anyone who believes that easier equals better
only makes himself continously dumber over the course of his life,
because such a person always will seek to remove every challenge and "effort" from his life
in favour of "push button, receive bacon" fast gratification.


Easier and safer = less challenging and boring.


People who want that do not want to think,
they do not want to learn,
they do not want to risk anything.

This sums up as: People who are afraid of reality showing them that they are not perfect.
Of showing them that they aren't special. Of showing them that people are not equal,
but that there are smarter people out there.


You can see lots of these ingame and on the forums.


Especially during USTZ.



Nah the point is to reduce "waste" (thank you SixSigma !) and to optimize things.
It's not that easier equals better it's just that since you can do a specific task easier and without wasting time why would you stick to a method that is more complicated and takes longer ?
Some things that can be done easier and without effort should be done so (lighting a fire), while in some other things effort is appreciated (a painting masterpiece). Me traveling through your turf - less effort, you trying to pew-pew me - effort. Get it?

If trade routes would have been difficult to travel through (cause of piracy or weather conditions) they would have been abandoned and a new safer route charted.
Like ye olde pirates, in most cases, they were seriously outgunned and outran by most commercial vessels and they had to go "all in" and make the most of what they had in order to get the booty !
And that's where your "smarter" comes in - I have this thing that lets me go about my business in your turf - it's YOUR job to be smarter and try to devise ways to turn my ship into metal scrap, don't call ME a coward or slacker.
Me, I have to be careful and sneaky - you have to overcome cause you're "YARRR" and all evil and pew-pew-ish - if you can' t, well, you're in the wrong business and we can always use more miners. ;)

There are a lot of ways to get a covops.
In exploration for example covops gets me to where I want to go, but I'm "wide open" the rest of the time. Cause if I would be dying 99,9% of times - I wouldn't be doing it, and you'd be all alone in your stretch of "lawlessness" and in space no one can hear you sob.

Fornicate The Constabulary !

Solecist Project
#32 - 2014-12-31 09:39:05 UTC
As long as I keep rubbing ...
... my blood pressure stays high. ^_^

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2014-12-31 09:41:26 UTC
Nami Kumamato wrote:
Sol Project wrote:
Nami Kumamato wrote:
Why would you start a fire with flint and tinder every time when you can use a damn lighter, since you have it ?...

You are comparing apples with oranges.

Flint and tinder saves on gas. A lighter is of limited use only and the only advantage
is that it is less effort and faster to light a fire.

A covops cloak doesn't make it less effort,
because the effort you have to put into with mwdcloak is rediculously low.

So low, that claiming the covops cloak makes it easier ...
... makes you look like a handicapped person.

Furthermore does the mwdcloak trick not use up a finite amount of ressources aka gas in the lighter,
while the covops cloak does not help you achieve your goal significantly faster.

Again, the gain is miniscule.


A covops cloak makes it easier and safer. Not better.

Anyone who believes that easier equals better
only makes himself continously dumber over the course of his life,
because such a person always will seek to remove every challenge and "effort" from his life
in favour of "push button, receive bacon" fast gratification.


Easier and safer = less challenging and boring.


People who want that do not want to think,
they do not want to learn,
they do not want to risk anything.

This sums up as: People who are afraid of reality showing them that they are not perfect.
Of showing them that they aren't special. Of showing them that people are not equal,
but that there are smarter people out there.


You can see lots of these ingame and on the forums.


Especially during USTZ.



Nah the point is to reduce "waste" (thank you SixSigma !) and to optimize things.
It's not that easier equals better it's just that since you can do a specific task easier and without wasting time why would you stick to a method that is more complicated and takes longer ?
Some things that can be done easier and without effort should be done so (lighting a fire), while in some other things effort is appreciated (a painting masterpiece). Me traveling through your turf - less effort, you trying to pew-pew me - effort. Get it?

If trade routes would have been difficult to travel through (cause of piracy or weather conditions) they would have been abandoned and a new safer route charted.
Like ye olde pirates, in most cases, they were seriously outgunned and outran by most commercial vessels and they had to go "all in" and make the most of what they had in order to get the booty !
And that's where your "smarter" comes in - I have this thing that lets me go about my business in your turf - it's YOUR job to be smarter and try to devise ways to turn my ship into metal scrap, don't call ME a coward or slacker.
Me, I have to be careful and sneaky - you have to overcome cause you're "YARRR" and all evil and pew-pew-ish - if you can' t, well, you're in the wrong business and we can always use more miners. ;)

There are a lot of ways to get a covops.
In exploration for example covops gets me to where I want to go, but I'm "wide open" the rest of the time. Cause if I would be dying 99,9% of times - I wouldn't be doing it, and you'd be all alone in your stretch of "lawlessness" and in space no one can hear you sob.
TL;DR If we go all in, we can haz her booty.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!

Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#34 - 2014-12-31 09:43:33 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:

TL;DR If we go all in, we can haz her booty.


There are no half measures when dealing with booty :D

Fornicate The Constabulary !

Solecist Project
#35 - 2014-12-31 09:48:11 UTC
Oh wow I didn't see that horribly formatted wall of carebeardrivel I ain't gonna read.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#36 - 2014-12-31 09:53:26 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Oh wow I didn't see that horribly formatted wall of carebeardrivel I ain't gonna read.


Still http://youtu.be/QKnHYcSG9Po :D

Fornicate The Constabulary !

Solecist Project
#37 - 2014-12-31 09:58:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Nami Kumamato wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Oh wow I didn't see that horribly formatted wall of carebeardrivel I ain't gonna read.


Still http://youtu.be/QKnHYcSG9Po :D

Ain't clicking that either. :)

I do wish you a happy new year though... *hugs* :)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#38 - 2014-12-31 10:13:32 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Nami Kumamato wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Oh wow I didn't see that horribly formatted wall of carebeardrivel I ain't gonna read.


Still http://youtu.be/QKnHYcSG9Po :D

Ain't clicking that either. :)

I do wish you a happy new year though... *hugs* :)


Awww, all the best in the new one to you too ! *hugs*

(thread officially derailled - gimme 5)

Fornicate The Constabulary !

Solecist Project
#39 - 2014-12-31 10:15:25 UTC
Nami Kumamato wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Nami Kumamato wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Oh wow I didn't see that horribly formatted wall of carebeardrivel I ain't gonna read.


Still http://youtu.be/QKnHYcSG9Po :D

Ain't clicking that either. :)

I do wish you a happy new year though... *hugs* :)


Awww, all the best in the new one to you too ! *hugs*

(thread officially derailled - gimme 5)

*5*

I'd give you more than that too. ;)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#40 - 2014-12-31 10:27:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Nami Kumamato
Solecist Project wrote:
Nami Kumamato wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Nami Kumamato wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Oh wow I didn't see that horribly formatted wall of carebeardrivel I ain't gonna read.


Still http://youtu.be/QKnHYcSG9Po :D

Ain't clicking that either. :)

I do wish you a happy new year though... *hugs* :)


Awww, all the best in the new one to you too ! *hugs*

(thread officially derailled - gimme 5)

*5*

I'd give you more than that too. ;)


Shhhhhh :">

Fornicate The Constabulary !

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