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Frenjo Borkstar
Doomheim
#41 - 2014-12-30 15:15:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Frenjo Borkstar
Acceptable losses. If they fail, destroy them, if they succeed, dissect them and find out what made them different from the ones that failed. It's simple scientific methodology.

This brings new applications to my modified Slave implant technology... Very interesting - I'll be following the project closely, there could be promising results.

- Dr. Borkstar.

Viriel,

Borkstar Laboratories,

The Borkstar Initiative.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#42 - 2014-12-30 15:30:54 UTC
Shots fired
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#43 - 2014-12-30 15:34:29 UTC
Slaves are not lab rats. They are not sacrificial lambs. They are not inhuman, animals, or anything else.

The only ones in this thread who are, are people like Hydreiga, Borkstar, and of course the Butcher. If anyone deserves to be "dissected", it's people like you.

May you all burn in hell.
Wendrika Hydreiga
#44 - 2014-12-30 15:36:00 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Wendrika hates Nation. One of Nation's biggest offenses according to the Empires pre-Incursion was the "unethical" experimentation and alteration of Minmatar slaves. Wendrika proceeds to perform unethical experimentation and alteration of Minmatar slaves.


You Sansha people are still pretty terrible though... Having to chose between working for you guys and Mister Nauplius, I'd pick Mister Nauplius every single time!

I have standards afterall.
Bai'xao Meiyi
#45 - 2014-12-30 15:37:02 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Wendrika hates Nation. One of Nation's biggest offenses according to the Empires pre-Incursion was the "unethical" experimentation and alteration of Minmatar slaves. Wendrika proceeds to perform unethical experimentation and alteration of Minmatar slaves.


You Sansha people are still pretty terrible though... Having to chose between working for you guys and Mister Nauplius, I'd pick Mister Nauplius every single time!

I have standards afterall.


I would choose Nauplius.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#46 - 2014-12-30 15:56:12 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Jade Blackwind wrote:
This is just so lovely, words fail me. I can't stop laughing.

Or, wait. I have an idea.

How about we catch you and impart your lost Minmatarness back at you? That'd be fun. I can even find a wandering mystic who, for the modest sum, will bestow an appropriate Voluval mark on you, ms. Hydreiga.

And then the new and improved Minmatar you will be reinserted into the population.

hehehe


This brings up a question. Who is to say the Jovians didn't do something like this to insert sleeper agents into our midst? They are already manipulating genetics to a much greater degree than this project.


If you want to find Jovian sleeper agents, I suggest you look for people from the four empires who have spent a large amount of time amongst the Jove.

I can think of one such example.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Madelyne Montclaire
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2014-12-30 16:01:54 UTC
Disgusting.
Doctor Valate
Delve Medical Services
#48 - 2014-12-30 18:53:32 UTC
I don't think an adequate answer to my question was given.

Thus, I have no definite opinion on this research.

Doctor Valerie Valate. Not to be confused with the other Valerie Valate.
Alabath Schmidt
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2014-12-30 18:58:06 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Except not really. The guy whose ship we blow up and loot knew what he was getting into. The guys who got experimented on...probably didn't.

What? How is this equivalent?
Bad actions were done, yes. Data now exists. You destroy the person who did the research, take the data, and give it to someone.
It's like when explicitly abused slave labor is used to make modules that are then put on a ship. You blow the ship up, you take the module, and then you use it anyway. It is ethically the same. If you would destroy the module because of the abuse involved in its creation, then you can destroy the data and actually make sense.
Wendrika Hydreiga
#50 - 2014-12-30 19:19:23 UTC
Doctor Valate wrote:
Would it be right to say, that the end goal would be to take a Minmatar person, scan their brain, and then upload that brain scan into a cloned body that is genetically not Minmatar ? Keeping sufficient genetic markers such that the known issues with cloning the brain due to differences between bloodlines, are avoided ?


Sorry for the late reply Miss Valate, but it's been an hectic day! So good to be infamous!

But yes, that is basically the abridged version of what my research tried to acomplish. You make it sound so simplistic though...
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#51 - 2014-12-30 19:52:26 UTC
Bai'xao Meiyi wrote:
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Wendrika hates Nation. One of Nation's biggest offenses according to the Empires pre-Incursion was the "unethical" experimentation and alteration of Minmatar slaves. Wendrika proceeds to perform unethical experimentation and alteration of Minmatar slaves.


You Sansha people are still pretty terrible though... Having to chose between working for you guys and Mister Nauplius, I'd pick Mister Nauplius every single time!

I have standards afterall.


I would choose Nauplius.

Interesting thing, but I have to admit I would choose Mr. Nauplius as well.
You see, Mr. Nauplius is formally an ally to the State, while Sansha are enemies of the State and must be eradicated from all known and unknown space without mercy or regret.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Thea Isotalo
Doomheim
#52 - 2014-12-30 20:07:26 UTC
Awesome!


In just one thread we were able to figure out which pilots are potential allies and which ones need to have a PPG put to them.


Thanks!



BRCE: Mission Statement!
Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
#53 - 2014-12-31 00:14:23 UTC
Frenjo Borkstar wrote:
Acceptable losses. If they fail, destroy them, if they succeed, dissect them and find out what made them different from the ones that failed. It's simple scientific methodology.

This brings new applications to my modified Slave implant technology... Very interesting - I'll be following the project closely, there could be promising results.

- Dr. Borkstar.


Bad idea, Fren. Do yourself a favor and don`t get involved with another unethical project. I would have thought that was a lesson well learned.

Remember the tea.

Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#54 - 2014-12-31 00:52:57 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Wendrika hates Nation. One of Nation's biggest offenses according to the Empires pre-Incursion was the "unethical" experimentation and alteration of Minmatar slaves. Wendrika proceeds to perform unethical experimentation and alteration of Minmatar slaves.

I'm not sure if I should laugh or be angry.

Pieter? Can we kill her?


Yes! She's certainly not blue.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Ollie Rundle
#55 - 2014-12-31 01:07:51 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
Doctor Valate wrote:
Would it be right to say, that the end goal would be to take a Minmatar person, scan their brain, and then upload that brain scan into a cloned body that is genetically not Minmatar ? Keeping sufficient genetic markers such that the known issues with cloning the brain due to differences between bloodlines, are avoided ?


Sorry for the late reply Miss Valate, but it's been an hectic day! So good to be infamous!

But yes, that is basically the abridged version of what my research tried to acomplish. You make it sound so simplistic though...


You're aware then that the practice of cloning into a genetic phenotype that is unrecognizable when compared with the original body is one that sees widespread use in capsuleer populations across the cluster already, correct? Is your research aimed at developing an alternative to this practice? Is it meant to target non-capsuleer populations?

If neither of these things what is its purpose in terms of applied science? Are you just reinforcing research that is already a decade or more old and hoping to increase your profile as a result?
Wendrika Hydreiga
#56 - 2014-12-31 01:10:21 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Yes! She's certainly not blue.


And you guys aren't purple either, so...

Then again, I do have a big bounty on my head.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#57 - 2014-12-31 03:56:07 UTC
Although I expected some opposition to this De-Minmatarization research, the vehemence of that opposition has surprised me somewhat. Just look at the dramatic gains in likeabilty and beauty in Wendrika herself since she reduced her Minmatarness some time back. Now imagine those gains on a mass scale. Not only do we destroy the Minmatar part (and so glorify God), but we replace it with something that can belong in God's creation without continually desecrating it as do the Minmatar. This is responsible creation care, a basic imperative for God's Chosen.
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#58 - 2014-12-31 06:18:16 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Although I expected some opposition to this De-Minmatarization research, the vehemence of that opposition has surprised me somewhat. Just look at the dramatic gains in likeabilty and beauty in Wendrika herself since she reduced her Minmatarness some time back. Now imagine those gains on a mass scale. Not only do we destroy the Minmatar part (and so glorify God), but we replace it with something that can belong in God's creation without continually desecrating it as do the Minmatar. This is responsible creation care, a basic imperative for God's Chosen.


I thought your stance before was that the Minmatar can't be purified and that's why you never bothered to "rehabilitate" any like so many other Amarr. Was my understanding wrong?

-Eran
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2014-12-31 06:22:42 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Although I expected some opposition to this De-Minmatarization research, the vehemence of that opposition has surprised me somewhat. Just look at the dramatic gains in likeabilty and beauty in Wendrika herself since she reduced her Minmatarness some time back. Now imagine those gains on a mass scale. Not only do we destroy the Minmatar part (and so glorify God), but we replace it with something that can belong in God's creation without continually desecrating it as do the Minmatar. This is responsible creation care, a basic imperative for God's Chosen.


I thought your stance before was that the Minmatar can't be purified and that's why you never bothered to "rehabilitate" any like so many other Amarr. Was my understanding wrong?

-Eran


What he was proposing is just a kinder form of genocide.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#60 - 2014-12-31 09:25:04 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Although I expected some opposition to this De-Minmatarization research, the vehemence of that opposition has surprised me somewhat. Just look at the dramatic gains in likeabilty and beauty in Wendrika herself since she reduced her Minmatarness some time back. Now imagine those gains on a mass scale. Not only do we destroy the Minmatar part (and so glorify God), but we replace it with something that can belong in God's creation without continually desecrating it as do the Minmatar. This is responsible creation care, a basic imperative for God's Chosen.


I thought your stance before was that the Minmatar can't be purified and that's why you never bothered to "rehabilitate" any like so many other Amarr. Was my understanding wrong?

-Eran


It sounds like a change in policy to me. Presumably he wasn't gaining enough infamy to feed his ego and so changed tack.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori